The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Empathy is NOT being able to feel what someone else feels, it's being able to understand how they might feel.

For instance, I don't KNOW what someone feels if they have lost a child to cancer, but I can understand how they MIGHT feel. And if they tell me how they do feel I can attempt to put myself in their position. Some people are better at this than others.

It's completely different to sympathy.

As it happens, I make Kirk wrong on this one, but he was mistaken or ignorant of the correct definition, as many are in this case (not least most of the posters on here), not in any way evil.



 

[BRANDED]

I would bet if I was beating the shit out of someone they would likely feel pain but just because I think that would be true doesnt make it so. 
My feelings would be based upon me not them. I would know me not them.

I can be sympathetic or altruistic but I cant know how they feel. Only they might know that. 
 

[ironsofcanada]

Well. How would I know how someone else feels? By the way they whine?

 

 

You know the answer, of course.  You have spoken of your interactions with humans a great deal on here over the years.

We can't 100 percent know but it's the trying that makes people function in society.

[BRANDED]

Right wing people aren murderers by default.

 

[Mad Dog]

Massive, I dont understand.  His family were republicans so he must default be the most right wing person that ever lived.   How can this be?  Faux, help me out here

[XKhammer]

You didn't go because you knew what would happen to you once you were outted as a raspberry raping nonce.

Brilliant and very intelligent response before you get on the school bus,mommy must be so proud 

 

So after being, correctly, called a raspberry raping nonce the very next place your mind goes is to fantasize about me as a child and imagine me on a school bus.

You really are a sick deviant cսnt.

 

 

Seek help weirdo

[BRANDED]

More critically, what if someone feels sad but doesnt express it? 

Anyway, who cares?

[BRANDED]

How possible is it to be empathetic?

We will only ever know what is going on in our own minds and even then most of us dont do a great job of that.



 

I think the real way to say is "try to be empathetic" ie. Making the attempt to not be wholly trapped in our own feelings.and viewpoint.  Most people try, just some more than others.

The harder part is not judging others especially beyond their actions, which also follows from point you are making (which I agree with).

Well. How would I know how someone else feels? By the way they whine?

[Massive Attack]

Further reports

"His family has collectively told investigators that he subscribed to left-wing ideology,"  Kash Patel said.

Ammunition found with the suspected rifle was also reportedly engraved with antifascist writings.

[ironsofcanada]

How possible is it to be empathetic?

We will only ever know what is going on in our own minds and even then most of us dont do a great job of that.


 

I think the real way to say is "try to be empathetic" ie. Making the attempt to not be wholly trapped in our own feelings.and viewpoint.  Most people try, just some more than others.

The harder part is not judging others especially beyond their actions, which also follows from point you are making (which I agree with).

[Mike Oxsaw]

OK so youre either a troll or one of the dumbest people on here... or both



 

His last post proves he's just thick, continuing to double down again and again.

They come hand in hand surely, an unhealthy amount of our population now spend time winding up strangers on the internet as their main hobby, not the sign of a stable mind. 

Yep. Guaranteed that in his pretty little head, his keep-net is brimming with far-right fishies.

[Mr Anon]

OK so youre either a troll or one of the dumbest people on here... or both


 

His last post proves he's just thick, continuing to double down again and again.

They come hand in hand surely, an unhealthy amount of our population now spend time winding up strangers on the internet as their main hobby, not the sign of a stable mind. 

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Says he didn’t know him from a bar of soap until his assassination, but has spent the last few days insisting he has a definitive knowledge of his character.





 

[Lee Trundle]

OK so youre either a troll or one of the dumbest people on here... or both

 

His last post proves he's just thick, continuing to double down again and again.

[Mad Dog]

Faux

OK so youre either a troll or one of the dumbest people on here... or both

Once again answer my points

1) Is it not possible for a somone in the same family to have a different view to the rest of his family?

2) what is the FULL empathy quote, this time dont forget the but about sympathy?  Post it here...  actually read it

I doubt you'll respond to either point properly

[Massive Attack]

Im comforted in the knowledge that Charlie Kirk is looking up at mankind now with flames licking his balls.

Why's that then?

[Fauxstralian]

My narrative?
Didn’t know this MAGA clown from a bar of soap until the other more extreme right winger shot him
Dreadful business
Perhaps the country could at some point revert to a sensible government for all the people and stop all the killing by restricting the ownership of firearms
Crucial as the country seems infested with violent morons 
Many of them in positions of power 
Very sad as there are many great things about America 

[THUNDERCLINT]

 

I'm a Reform/Farage supporter and TR breaks the law and a convicted criminal plus he thinks he's above the law civil and criminal 
Also he's a thug and his image doesn't help 

You didn't go because you knew what would happen to you once you were outted as a raspberry raping nonce.

Brilliant and very intelligent response before you get on the school bus,mommy must be so proud 

 

 

So after being, correctly, called a raspberry raping nonce the very next place your mind goes is to fantasize about me as a child and imagine me on a school bus.

You really are a sick deviant cսnt.

[Hello Mrs. Jones]

Im comforted in the knowledge that Charlie Kirk is looking up at mankind now with flames licking his balls.

[Massive Attack]

Starmer has not criticised the march instead he has criticised the violence that ensued. And note how the Musk criticises our government for curbing free speech at an event where he was freely allowed to speak live from his American bunker.

The violence that ensued seems to have only been witnessed by the Metropolitan Police.

Odd.

I've only seen little bits of clashes online where a tiny amount of people were involved, but considering the ridiculously huge numbers that attended it wasn't at all representative of the vast majority of peaceful protesters who were in attendance like myself. 

We were roughly in the middle of the March to begin with from 11am and ended up quite close to the Main Stand of Speakers about 20 rows deep and at no point did I see any trouble whatsoever heading back on the route the way we came. Not 1 thing which even surprised me when I considered how many turned up. 

Shame on those that did kick off where the Old Bill stupidly (intentionally?) ushered them towards an Antifa flash point where both sides were involved in nonsense. It could have been avoided if the Met cordoned it off properly, which I'm sure was always there intention..

[Takashi Miike]

Hampstead Antifa

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Why haven't you finished the quote? 

"Sympathy is a better word, because empathy means you are actually feeling what another person felt, and no one can feel what another person feels"

Because I doubt whoever he lifted it from continued with the quote.

Sven's become a VERY useful idiot for Antifa and those similar.  Poor bloke is too stupid to even realise it.

 

 

Exactly. He keeps stating it is easy to find quotes via his podcasts and debates, but he clearly never uses them as  the source.

[collyrob]

You’ve had a complete Reggie Blinker here Sven son.

[Mad Dog]

Again faux, why are you not finishing the quote? I can only assume its deliberately because it doesn't suit your natrative

[Lee Trundle]

Why haven't you finished the quote? 

"Sympathy is a better word, because empathy means you are actually feeling what another person felt, and no one can feel what another person feels"

Because I doubt whoever he lifted it from continued with the quote.

Sven's become a VERY useful idiot for Antifa and those similar.  Poor bloke is too stupid to even realise it.