Hammers United Protests | Who's Going?

[stubbo-admin]

So next Saturday is the first protest with a pre-game march.

Thought a thread to organise within the context of WHO, who's going, anyone that wanted to get slurps before and after etc might be worth doing.

I'll confirm the logistics of things and post them up as well.

COYI

[Sir Alf]

I hope you are right Wils and I am wrong. Just that Sullivan, being a narcissistic type, has a very thick skin.

Totally agree that fans should try to stick together on this though. 

[wils]

The only way it has impact is if it is a long, sustained campaign. A handful of games and this season, as a whole, wont be enough.  Just got to keep it going even if results improve and Sullivan spends in Jan or the summer. Unfortunately, I suspect the momentum to be lost if results improve. But with this ownership I cam guarantee and most will probably agree, any improvement is always going to be temporary and bad times / “the circus” is never far away.   Sullivan and Brady simply have to walk away from the day to day running of the club and especially any footballimg decisions.  That is non negotiable.

Disagree with this take. If it even looks just 10 or 15% down on expected attendance it will have an effect. That might not hurt them financially from one game, but it's a warning shot and will affect their decision making from there on even if the results improve and the protests fade (they shouldn't). They will fear inflaming the situation. I wouldn't go as far as calling someone a cսnt for going, but to say I am 'disappointed' at those who do go would also be an understatement. We should stick together on this.

[violator]

Talksport’s Jeff Stelling and Gaby Abonlahor discussing this next 6.50am

No doubt Jim White would have already been paid to pour scorn on the protests on his show this morning.

[Massive Attack]

Yeah, calling them cunts is harsh although I do agree with the general jist of the post of keeping the heat on the Board and that the pampered players should be made well aware of the situation and remain professional regardless of outside noise and some distraction going on.

Some thing's are more important and ousting them is top of the list right now at the Club. The odd game disruption out of a 38 game season doesn't change a thing.

And if the Board didn't want any of this, then they should have thought a lot longer and harder about the decisions that they made... Reap what you sow, you lying Club destroying, money grabbing wankers.

[fraser]

We need to let the players know that it's not about them and that we're there even though we're not in the ground. Don't know how we do that though 

They are not kids, and they even have mobile phones with internet available...
of course they know what's going on.
Keep the pressure on the owners even if it mean reduced support to the team. Collateral damage is not avoidable.
Non protesters are cunts!

I'm not going tonight, I've read Bill Gardner who never misses a match isn't going. Centreforce won't be doing their pre match at the Bat and Ball either. But living in a different country calling fans who are going cunts when you don't know their situations says more about you. 

[Forest Gate Ugly]

Talksport “analysis” half arsed and focussed mainly on the stadium. Jeff S- who knows what it’s like to have a terrible owner at Hartlepool- did pin the discontent on abject player recruitment. Brady and Sullivan criticised in passing but main thrust was ‘now is not the time for a boycott’- Gaby S says it will affect the players and won’t change anything. Still feel it’s a big positive it’s in the national media and right to go ahead with it. 

[Forest Gate Ugly]

Talksport’s Jeff Stelling and Gaby Abonlahor discussing this next 6.50am

[Keep dreaming]

We need to let the players know that it's not about them and that we're there even though we're not in the ground. Don't know how we do that though 

They are not kids, and they even have mobile phones with internet available...
of course they know what's going on.
Keep the pressure on the owners even if it mean reduced support to the team. Collateral damage is not avoidable.
Non protesters are cunts!

[Mr Logic]

We need to let the players know that it's not about them and that we're there even though we're not in the ground. Don't know how we do that though 

[Chip Shop Charlie]

We must all try to to realize that the boycot is just a small piece of a much larger, sustained plan to oust these two charlatans from power and is just the beginning of a long campaign, that in itself may not have a great impact. 

[Sir Alf]

The only way it has impact is if it is a long, sustained campaign. A handful of games and this season, as a whole, wont be enough.  Just got to keep it going even if results improve and Sullivan spends in Jan or the summer. Unfortunately, I suspect the momentum to be lost if results improve. But with this ownership I cam guarantee and most will probably agree, any improvement is always going to be temporary and bad times / “the circus” is never far away.   Sullivan and Brady simply have to walk away from the day to day running of the club and especially any footballimg decisions.  That is non negotiable.

[62Hammer]

Not going on Monday as a matter of principle although I’m doubtful about the impact. Sullivan and Brady will do their best to spin this so the protest seems not only pointless but misguided and unsupportive of Nuno and the team. I’m hoping there are enough empty seats to cause the cameras to seek out our useless owners and the commentators to mention on national TV that until they are gone- or at least step back from the running of the club- we remain a circus. 

 

Same here. I'm expecting a much better performance and perhaps a win and would like to be there to see it after all the crap, but everything B&S do makes me more angry and I'm not going. I hope the boycott has an effect - perhaps it won't but it's worth trying.

[Forest Gate Ugly]

Not going on Monday as a matter of principle although I’m doubtful about the impact. Sullivan and Brady will do their best to spin this so the protest seems not only pointless but misguided and unsupportive of Nuno and the team. I’m hoping there are enough empty seats to cause the cameras to seek out our useless owners and the commentators to mention on national TV that until they are gone- or at least step back from the running of the club- we remain a circus. 

[El Scorchio]

I'm not sure how much traction this boycott has and as Gary said it might not look that empty because everyone will move down. 

I thought that the club had a policy about people sitting in the wrong seats. One that could lead to a ban on the original seat owner, the squatter or both.

Wasn't that one of the issues Photo IDs are intended to stop?

No one checks. I have a ticket in the lower tier, but I sit anywhere there is gap recently. Completely different block. Those Indian's checking aren't really paying attention.

Does anyone at a football ground in the home end ever really check tickets unless someone (on rare occasion) asks where their seat is? Most people already know where they are going. As for sitting in an empty seat, it's sort of fair game to take the chance if you're that way inclined until the person who owns it turns up, as long as you vacate it when they do and don't act like a dick about it.

No way would they ever ban someone (an STH for example) who isn't there but someone else has just come and sat in their seat. How on earth is it the ticket holder's fault if that happens? I maybe could see people being banned for repeatedly just sitting where they like, acting like a twat and refusing to move if asked, but otherwise no-one is causing any harm and it's not worth anyone's time or effort to do anything about it. I couldn't care less who might chance sitting in my seat if I'm not there seen as it's a decent one, as long as they don't piss off the folk who sit nearby.

[Massive Attack]

I'm not sure how much traction this boycott has and as Gary said it might not look that empty because everyone will move down. 

I thought that the club had a policy about people sitting in the wrong seats. One that could lead to a ban on the original seat owner, the squatter or both.

Wasn't that one of the issues Photo IDs are intended to stop?

No one checks. I have a ticket in the lower tier, but I sit anywhere there is gap recently. Completely different block. Those Indian's checking aren't really paying attention.

If it was a Britcard they'd be right on the case.

[wils]

I'm not sure how much traction this boycott has and as Gary said it might not look that empty because everyone will move down. 

I thought that the club had a policy about people sitting in the wrong seats. One that could lead to a ban on the original seat owner, the squatter or both.

Wasn't that one of the issues Photo IDs are intended to stop?

No one checks. I have a ticket in the lower tier, but I sit anywhere there is gap recently. Completely different block. Those Indian's checking aren't really paying attention.

[wils]

I won't be relisting either. I don't think it matters if it's only 10% that honour the boycott, as long as its noticeable that is all that matters. They will worry it gets worse.

[XKhammer]

I'm not sure how much traction this boycott has and as Gary said it might not look that empty because everyone will move down. 

I thought that the club had a policy about people sitting in the wrong seats. One that could lead to a ban on the original seat owner, the squatter or both.

Wasn't that one of the issues Photo IDs are intended to stop?

 

Utter bollocks

[Massive Attack]

So I've received a message today from West Ham encouraging me to relist my ticket for Brentford if I can't make it. I thought this happened only if the game was sold out. So are they trying convince me that the game is sold out so if I'm thinking of boycotting I won't bother? Or have they changed their rules for this one because they're desperate for me to relist if I'm not going?
I've been on the previous demonstrations and am very ready to boycott this game (and obviously not relist), as long as it looks like being worth it. I'll be very pissed off if I don't go and then find that the ground looks more or less full.

They're desperate. They've been on one panicking about sales for a while harrassing me to by a Season Ticket all summer long. Was very noticeable how much it was effecting their sales strategy and I'm sure that's only carried in with regards to what you say.

Famous last words but I'd be amazed if the Stadium is more or less full. I really think this will be an eye opener for a lot of people at the strength of feeling amongst the fan base who will swerve this one. But it's up to you to still go if you wish, no issue with that as it's your ST end of the day.

No, I won't be going. Everything they do is making me more angry.

If its any slight consolation there's many of us that feel the same. Also it's 1 night you don't have to trudge down there in the cold for a shit product served up. 

I feel a bit sorry for Nuno though as it'll be his 1st game in charge at Home and he has to walk in to a disaster zone like monday might with scores of fans staying away, when normally it would be packed out. Just bad timing for him unfortunately. It's not a good enough reason for people to call off the boycott/protests, even though I'm sure that was Sullivan and Brady's cynical hope...

[62Hammer]

So I've received a message today from West Ham encouraging me to relist my ticket for Brentford if I can't make it. I thought this happened only if the game was sold out. So are they trying convince me that the game is sold out so if I'm thinking of boycotting I won't bother? Or have they changed their rules for this one because they're desperate for me to relist if I'm not going?
I've been on the previous demonstrations and am very ready to boycott this game (and obviously not relist), as long as it looks like being worth it. I'll be very pissed off if I don't go and then find that the ground looks more or less full.

They're desperate. They've been on one panicking about sales for a while harrassing me to by a Season Ticket all summer long. Was very noticeable how much it was effecting their sales strategy and I'm sure that's only carried in with regards to what you say.

Famous last words but I'd be amazed if the Stadium is more or less full. I really think this will be an eye opener for a lot of people at the strength of feeling amongst the fan base who will swerve this one. But it's up to you to still go if you wish, no issue with that as it's your ST end of the day.

No, I won't be going. Everything they do is making me more angry.

[Massive Attack]

So I've received a message today from West Ham encouraging me to relist my ticket for Brentford if I can't make it. I thought this happened only if the game was sold out. So are they trying convince me that the game is sold out so if I'm thinking of boycotting I won't bother? Or have they changed their rules for this one because they're desperate for me to relist if I'm not going?
I've been on the previous demonstrations and am very ready to boycott this game (and obviously not relist), as long as it looks like being worth it. I'll be very pissed off if I don't go and then find that the ground looks more or less full.

They're desperate. They've been on one panicking about sales for a while harrassing me to by a Season Ticket all summer long. Was very noticeable how much it was effecting their sales strategy and I'm sure that's only carried in with regards to what you say.

Famous last words but I'd be amazed if the Stadium is more or less full. I really think this will be an eye opener for a lot of people at the strength of feeling amongst the fan base who will swerve this one. But it's up to you to still go if you wish, no issue with that as it's your ST end of the day.

[Massive Attack]

From £34 when the game is on the Telly against Brentford on a cold Monday night in the shithole with a publicised protest? Yeah, can't see them shifting a great deal of those to Tourists. I'm actually not too fussed about hospitality tickets being sold as they are less visible the most of the ground that will be on display.

[Gary Strodders shank]

P1'travel are trying to punt out hospitality from £69 and match tickets from £34.

[62Hammer]

So I've received a message today from West Ham encouraging me to relist my ticket for Brentford if I can't make it. I thought this happened only if the game was sold out. So are they trying convince me that the game is sold out so if I'm thinking of boycotting I won't bother? Or have they changed their rules for this one because they're desperate for me to relist if I'm not going?
I've been on the previous demonstrations and am very ready to boycott this game (and obviously not relist), as long as it looks like being worth it. I'll be very pissed off if I don't go and then find that the ground looks more or less full.

[Gary Strodders shank]

I'm not sure how much traction this boycott has and as Gary said it might not look that empty because everyone will move down. 

I thought that the club had a policy about people sitting in the wrong seats. One that could lead to a ban on the original seat owner, the squatter or both.

Wasn't that one of the issues Photo IDs are intended to stop?

I know nothing about that, but it clearly doesn't happen as there's regular musical chairs around us.. No photo Id either 

 

I see it all the time people going down the front to the TBL / BML at halftime or before even to stand with there mates or just jumping forward a few rows to a vacant seat.

The stewards never seem to check anyone's tickets as they enter the blocks.