Who is our worst signing?

[Nutsin]

I’ve got Kieran Dyer.

Who you got?

[eusebiovic]

Not only that but the Danish goalkeeping coach who recommended Hermans Hermitson was part of Potter's backroom staff who also promptly got the sack before he was able to get his parking spot sorted.

We also got rid of Xavi Valero who was considered a very good GK coach  - who has now got the gig at Liverpool because he was so overrated and overpaid for what he does!

 

[honky cat]

Far from the worst but Iain Dowie, another one so bad we signed him twice.

[yngwies Cat]

Gary Green and that Zaza fella spring to mind.

[El Scorchio]

They fans were singing you're not fit to wear the shirt at the Leeds game, that's how fucking bad Kilman is.

I can't think of any other player who was so bad to get that chant?

And what's worrying is you'd probably still have to pick him ahead of Todibo and Igor. That's how shocking the situation back there is.

[El Scorchio]

Supported West Ham since 1963 so seen some real crap players signed; Boogers; Roger the Relegator; Hilton; McKnight; Ilic; Beauchamp; Savio; Roberto; Clarke; Cornet; Wilson the list is virtually endless. If there is garbage available we will find it regardless of attitude, competence, age and/or fitness of the player or the board at the time.
Hermandsen for me is the most ill considered. We needed a striker, we signed a mediocre/poor keeper. We needed an energetic midfield player, we signed a mediocre/poor keeper. We needed a dominant central defender, we signed a mediocre/poor keeper.
Oh, and he missed a large part of the last season injured.
This year, Wilson was particularly irksome, old, injury prone and finished. But, goalkeeper was not in the most pressing need of an upgrade so to allow fuck wit Potter to blow £18m on Hermandsen was madness personified. 
There may have been comparable or worse players signed but the timing, the expenditure against the background of "we are skint", and the glaring necessity to improve other parts of the team put Hermandsen up there as one of the worst signings to my mind.
Can't imagine  a director of football allowing any manager to waste money in this manner.


 

 

 

Hermansen is an interesting one. On the face of it and in retrospect it looks like a fucking awful move. Came in at a position that wasn't an essential but a 'nice to have' to upgrade- arguably not the biggest priority. Subsequently he was also fucking dreadful.

Massive question marks over the scouting and recruitment here- I don't know what Potter thought he was getting. I never watched him previously so I have no idea if he was actually good at Leicester- I did note his height and saw it looked a bit of a concern but not much. He cannot have been as bad for them, though. He was also thrust into a shit team at short notice that conceded a record number of goals from crosses/set pieces with and without him in the side. The 'defending' around him was absolute dogshit in every game he played especially with the farcical set piece setup. Wonder if he was not fully over an injury.

I also wonder what else the manager may have THOUGHT he was also getting. Maybe at the time he was promised certain other things that never materialised so moved for him on the assumption 3-4 more players were coming in, in timely fashion, because I may be giving him too much credit here but I cannot believe Potter would have been told 'right, you're getting two players' and then decided on a keeper and a left back, neglecting everything else because everyone could see what was wrong. (Although his continued selection of JWP indicates maybe he was?) I don't believe the plan was to panic buy Fernandes and Magassa until it became clear we were looking fucked so I do believe promises were probably made and rescinded later. 

Anyway, it looks fucking shit but I say this maybe in hope more than expectation, he is still young and in theory salvageable.

[Far Cough UKunt]

They fans were singing you're not fit to wear the shirt at the Leeds game, that's how fucking bad Kilman is.

I can't think of any other player who was so bad to get that chant?

[El Scorchio]

Yeah I feel that Salthouse plays his 'mate' Sullivan like an accordion, convincing him to take his shit or hard to shift clients that no-one else will want, while placing his talented players elsewhere because he knows this is a graveyard. Either Sully is that stupid or a sucker for his 'pal' or Salty has something on him which is motivation to keep making bad decisions. 

Fucking hell, and having typed that it looks like according to hammers chat Sullivan has even chucked Salty under the bus now for the state of our club. More platitudes- yes he's been trying to hawk his shit onto us, but SULLIVAN is the one fucking buying it. If it's not Salthouse it'll be someone else conning the idiot.

My old man was a very good tiler and also knew how to cut marble properly for kitchen worktops and bathrooms back in the day.

He would quote a sum for any proposed job and often get turned down as it was deemed too expensive. Coz it's so easy to do init?

There were many times when months later or even in the following years he would get a call asking him to come around because somebody had completely monstered the kitchen or bathroom and the marble was fucked and the missus was in floods of tears so could he please take a look again.

So of course, he would end up charging even more than the original quote to remove the botch job and to re-do it properly.

This is Sullivan in a nutshell. Only he seems to make a habit of repeating the very same fuck up the second time around as well! 

Absolutely not going to disagree with that! Buy cheap buy twice. Trouble is Sullivan is such a fool it's buy cheap, medium OR expensive and buy twice because he's so so bad at it.

[oh dear II]

Sorry, I haven't watched a lot (any) football this season.

How bad is this Kilman? He's mentioned in every post. 

Gary Breen for me. I was a better player than him.

[eusebiovic]

You mean like Malick Thiaw or Máxime Lacroix at Newcastle and Palace respectively - both on the Salthouse roster but ended up signing under the radar at a good price for someone else before their fees skyrocket.

Yeah I feel that Salthouse plays his 'mate' Sullivan like an accordion, convincing him to take his shit or hard to shift clients that no-one else will want, while placing his talented players elsewhere because he knows this is a graveyard. Either Sully is that stupid or a sucker for his 'pal' or Salty has something on him which is motivation to keep making bad decisions. 

Fucking hell, and having typed that it looks like according to hammers chat Sullivan has even chucked Salty under the bus now for the state of our club. More platitudes- yes he's been trying to hawk his shit onto us, but SULLIVAN is the one fucking buying it. If it's not Salthouse it'll be someone else conning the idiot.

My old man was a very good tiler and also knew how to cut marble properly for kitchen worktops and bathrooms back in the day.

He would quote a sum for any proposed job and often get turned down as it was deemed too expensive. Coz it's so easy to do init?

There were many times when months later or even in the following years he would get a call asking him to come around because somebody had completely monstered the kitchen or bathroom and the marble was fucked and the missus was in floods of tears so could he please take a look again.

So of course, he would end up charging even more than the original quote to remove the botch job and to re-do it properly.

This is Sullivan in a nutshell. Only he seems to make a habit of repeating the very same fuck up the second time around as well! 

[ATHammer]

Supported West Ham since 1963 so seen some real crap players signed; Boogers; Roger the Relegator; Hilton; McKnight; Ilic; Beauchamp; Savio; Roberto; Clarke; Cornet; Wilson the list is virtually endless. If there is garbage available we will find it regardless of attitude, competence, age and/or fitness of the player or the board at the time.
Hermandsen for me is the most ill considered. We needed a striker, we signed a mediocre/poor keeper. We needed an energetic midfield player, we signed a mediocre/poor keeper. We needed a dominant central defender, we signed a mediocre/poor keeper.
Oh, and he missed a large part of the last season injured.
This year, Wilson was particularly irksome, old, injury prone and finished. But, goalkeeper was not in the most pressing need of an upgrade so to allow fuck wit Potter to blow £18m on Hermandsen was madness personified. 
There may have been comparable or worse players signed but the timing, the expenditure against the background of "we are skint", and the glaring necessity to improve other parts of the team put Hermandsen up there as one of the worst signings to my mind.
Can't imagine  a director of football allowing any manager to waste money in this manner.
 

[Pshyco scored all 4]

Kilman about as much use as a pair of tits on a goldfish.

[El Scorchio]

Kilman will look better of we sign a strong, dominant, vocal CB to play alongside him. He needs to be the junior partner...his stats have previously been very good when playing that role. 

He is at least a serviceable option and has shown ability in this league before.

Todibo and arguably Fullkrug are far bigger wastes of money IMO. With both I can make a case for why we signed them, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say, and this pudding tastes rancid.

Kilman has a much better chance of coming good for us than either of those two do at this point.

You mean like Malick Thiaw or Máxime Lacroix at Newcastle and Palace respectively - both on the Salthouse roster but ended up signing under the radar at a good price for someone else before their fees skyrocket.

Yeah I feel that Salthouse plays his 'mate' Sullivan like an accordion, convincing him to take his shit or hard to shift clients that no-one else will want, while placing his talented players elsewhere because he knows this is a graveyard. Either Sully is that stupid or a sucker for his 'pal' or Salty has something on him which is motivation to keep making bad decisions. 

Fucking hell, and having typed that it looks like according to hammers chat Sullivan has even chucked Salty under the bus now for the state of our club. More platitudes- yes he's been trying to hawk his shit onto us, but SULLIVAN is the one fucking buying it. If it's not Salthouse it'll be someone else conning the idiot.

[El Scorchio]

Special mention for the most honorable transfer the player who ripped up his contract and walked away when he sustained a long term injury. I cant remember his name.

Taricco? Yeah that was decent of him to be fair. 

[claypole]

Special mention for the most honorable transfer the player who ripped up his contract and walked away when he sustained a long term injury. I cant remember his name.

[El Scorchio]

So many players, so little time.

Kalvin Phillips takes a bit of beating 

I dunno, he was gash and way below expectations and a cսnt but a piece of piss to leave out of the side and get rid of without too much sustained damage minus the loan fee.

The Jack Wilshere contract was an absolute disaster as well.

There's no doubt he had some notable talent in his early days at Arsenal but by the time he signed for us his ankles had more holes than a Swiss Cheese. 

Yet he was sold to us as a sure thing despite struggling to stay fit for many years. 

Yes very true- that was one of those where all of us knew prior to signing he'd end up spending most his time in the treatment room, and that 'pranking' was a fucking galling disgrace. You expect to see someone earning vast amounts of money not taking the piss and focusing everything on getting fit rather than jeopardising yet more injury by jumping out of a fucking washing machine to scare someone- actually putting that person at a minor risk of injury as well. What if Rice had fallen over something and done his ankle or knee?

Unprofessional and a disgrace- and then to play some sort of 'woe is me' story from a supposed fan afterwards as if we'd have ANY sympathy. 'Fit to play but not picked' means one of a couple of things. He was either shit, a liar, or too much of a cսnt for his teammates or manager to want him involved.

At least we only signed him for three years so we could fuck him off after two but yes yet another ill researched and scouted disaster of a signing.

[9898]

Julian Discks (both times)
First time - Great player, best left back ibe seen at the club, but totally disrespected Billy Bonds and belittled him and the club causing player issues throughout. 
Second time - He left as thought he was bigger than the club, and totally flopped at Liverpool. Came back with no knee and was absolutely atrocious 

Rancid bait.

You're obviously not deep enough into West Ham to know what was going on when Dicks were signed. If you speak to a true supporter they will inform you of what was going on with Julian Dicks. 

[eusebiovic]

So many players, so little time.

Kalvin Phillips takes a bit of beating 

I dunno, he was gash and way below expectations and a cսnt but a piece of piss to leave out of the side and get rid of without too much sustained damage minus the loan fee.

The Jack Wilshere contract was an absolute disaster as well.

There's no doubt he had some notable talent in his early days at Arsenal but by the time he signed for us his ankles had more holes than a Swiss Cheese. 

Yet he was sold to us as a sure thing despite struggling to stay fit for many years. 

[El Scorchio]

So many players, so little time.

Kalvin Phillips takes a bit of beating 

I dunno, he was gash and way below expectations and a cսnt but a piece of piss to leave out of the side and get rid of without too much sustained damage minus the loan fee.

[El Scorchio]

There was definitely something dodgy about the Savio deal. Nani was our director of football and both came from Brescia. We then sold Diamante to Brescia for peanuts despite him being runner up in Hammer of the Year. Karren Brady came out in public and said the deal looked dodgy and would be investigated. That quickly went quiet.

Anyway, Kilman is a contender for worst ever. The size of his fee and the length of his contract could haunt us for a long time. Maybe he’ll come good in the Championship and surprise us all.

Kilman will look better of we sign a strong, dominant, vocal CB to play alongside him. He needs to be the junior partner...his stats have previously been very good when playing that role. 

He is at least a serviceable option and has shown ability in this league before.

Todibo and arguably Fullkrug are far bigger wastes of money IMO. With both I can make a case for why we signed them, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say, and this pudding tastes rancid.

Kilman has a much better chance of coming good for us than either of those two do at this point.

You mean like Malick Thiaw or Máxime Lacroix at Newcastle and Palace respectively - both on the Salthouse roster but ended up signing under the radar at a good price for someone else before their fees skyrocket.

Yeah I feel that Salthouse plays his 'mate' Sullivan like an accordion, convincing him to take his shit or hard to shift clients that no-one else will want, while placing his talented players elsewhere because he knows this is a graveyard. Either Sully is that stupid or a sucker for his 'pal' or Salty has something on him which is motivation to keep making bad decisions. 

[GBHammer63]

So many players, so little time.

Kalvin Phillips takes a bit of beating 

[eusebiovic]

Pound for pound, Kilman is the worst for me. 

Absolute dogshit player, huge transfer fee and huge long term contract. 

Honourable shout for Vlasic as well, about 30 million and was completely pony

I don't blame him (Kilman) for signing that contract but for the club it's an absolute disaster. We'll be carrying the luggage of that economic herpes until the bitter end.

[collyrob]

Pound for pound, Kilman is the worst for me. 

Absolute dogshit player, huge transfer fee and huge long term contract. 

Honourable shout for Vlasic as well, about 30 million and was completely pony

[Lee Trundle]

"Kilman will look better of we sign a strong, dominant, vocal CB to play alongside him"

I wish I had a quid every time I've seen that suggestion.

I'd probably be as rich as Kilman for putting in exactly the same amount of effort he puts in.

[eusebiovic]

There was definitely something dodgy about the Savio deal. Nani was our director of football and both came from Brescia. We then sold Diamante to Brescia for peanuts despite him being runner up in Hammer of the Year. Karren Brady came out in public and said the deal looked dodgy and would be investigated. That quickly went quiet.

Anyway, Kilman is a contender for worst ever. The size of his fee and the length of his contract could haunt us for a long time. Maybe he’ll come good in the Championship and surprise us all.

Kilman will look better of we sign a strong, dominant, vocal CB to play alongside him. He needs to be the junior partner...his stats have previously been very good when playing that role. 

He is at least a serviceable option and has shown ability in this league before.

Todibo and arguably Fullkrug are far bigger wastes of money IMO. With both I can make a case for why we signed them, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say, and this pudding tastes rancid.

Kilman has a much better chance of coming good for us than either of those two do at this point.

You mean like Malick Thiaw or Máxime Lacroix at Newcastle and Palace respectively - both on the Salthouse roster but ended up signing under the radar at a good price for someone else before their fees skyrocket.

[stubbo-admin]

There was definitely something dodgy about the Savio deal. Nani was our director of football and both came from Brescia. We then sold Diamante to Brescia for peanuts despite him being runner up in Hammer of the Year. Karren Brady came out in public and said the deal looked dodgy and would be investigated. That quickly went quiet.

Anyway, Kilman is a contender for worst ever. The size of his fee and the length of his contract could haunt us for a long time. Maybe he’ll come good in the Championship and surprise us all.

Kilman will look better of we sign a strong, dominant, vocal CB to play alongside him. He needs to be the junior partner...his stats have previously been very good when playing that role. 

He is at least a serviceable option and has shown ability in this league before.

Todibo and arguably Fullkrug are far bigger wastes of money IMO. With both I can make a case for why we signed them, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say, and this pudding tastes rancid.

Kilman has a much better chance of coming good for us than either of those two do at this point.