Boxing

[Nutsin]

Fights that would have had a different outcome if both fighters were in their prime.

I’ll go Hagler v Leonard and Tyson v Hollyfield.

Who you got?

[Council Scum]

Even heavy hitting Gassiev he went the distance with back at Cruiser before jumping up to heavyweight on top of fighting the likes of Dubois and Joshua twice each amongst others.

You are clutching at straws, as you don't have the first clue what you are talking about. 

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Roy Jones Junior first came to my attention when he was quite openly and blatantly robbed of Olympic gold  in 1988. 

Some boxing finals took place on the last day of Olympic competition in 1988. Jones fought against a South Korean, Park Si Hun, in Seoul and was adjudged to have lost the fight 3-2. It was not the only controversial decision in the tournament but it was the most blatant.

[Massive Attack]

Even heavy hitting Gassiev he went the distance with back at Cruiser before jumping up to heavyweight on top of fighting the likes of Dubois and Joshua twice each amongst others.

[Council Scum]

Again, Roy Jones has never had to face the heavyweight division like Uysk has which takes a serious toll on a Boxer which you well know, on top of everything else he's done in the sport. 

The heavyweight division is pretty shit, so I'm not sure what you are talking about. 

[Massive Attack]

Again, Roy Jones has never had to face the heavyweight division like Uysk has which takes a serious toll on a Boxer which you well know, on top of everything else he's done in the sport. 

[Council Scum]

Roy Jones Jr. had a career total of 121 amateur fights and won a silver medal at the 1988 Olympics. His professional career included 66 wins and 10 losses in 76 total fights before his bout with Joe Calzaghe, which he lost by unanimous decision.  Amateur and Olympic record

• Amateur record: 121 wins and 13 losses.
• 1988 Olympics: Won a silver medal at the 1988 Seoul Olympics as a light middleweight for the United States. 

Oleksandr Usyk's record up to his second professional fight with Daniel Dubois in July 2025 stands at 359 total fights (335 amateur, 24 professional) with only 15 losses, all in his amateur career. 

Usyk had a highly decorated amateur career with an official record of 335 wins and 15 losses, culminating in an Olympic gold medal at the London 2012 Games. 

• Amateur and Olympic Fights: Usyk had an extensive and highly successful amateur career, competing in approximately 350 fights with a record of 335 wins and 15 losses. His amateur career included winning a gold medal at the 2012 London Olympics and a bronze medal at the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
• Professional Fights: Prior to his first bout with Dubois, Usyk was an undefeated professional boxer with a record of 20 wins and 0 losses (13 by knockout). 

And as I said previous, has also been in the ring against some of the heaviest hitters around so he's taken his fair share of punishment in the ring as well down the years.

Amateur boxing is nothing like Pro boxing, it's a completely meaningless stat. But I probably don't need to explain that to you, you seem to know your stuff. 

No, it all adds up to years of training, wear and tear and fighting, as well as be dismissive of the heavy hitters Usyk has had to regularly face by comparison in the ring putting in some serious mileage. 

Yes, 3 round amateur fights, where the ref steps in if your head gets rocked, are the same as pro fights. You really know your stuff. 

[Massive Attack]

Roy Jones Jr. had a career total of 121 amateur fights and won a silver medal at the 1988 Olympics. His professional career included 66 wins and 10 losses in 76 total fights before his bout with Joe Calzaghe, which he lost by unanimous decision.  Amateur and Olympic record

• Amateur record: 121 wins and 13 losses.
• 1988 Olympics: Won a silver medal at the 1988 Seoul Olympics as a light middleweight for the United States. 

Oleksandr Usyk's record up to his second professional fight with Daniel Dubois in July 2025 stands at 359 total fights (335 amateur, 24 professional) with only 15 losses, all in his amateur career. 

Usyk had a highly decorated amateur career with an official record of 335 wins and 15 losses, culminating in an Olympic gold medal at the London 2012 Games. 

• Amateur and Olympic Fights: Usyk had an extensive and highly successful amateur career, competing in approximately 350 fights with a record of 335 wins and 15 losses. His amateur career included winning a gold medal at the 2012 London Olympics and a bronze medal at the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
• Professional Fights: Prior to his first bout with Dubois, Usyk was an undefeated professional boxer with a record of 20 wins and 0 losses (13 by knockout). 

And as I said previous, has also been in the ring against some of the heaviest hitters around so he's taken his fair share of punishment in the ring as well down the years.

Amateur boxing is nothing like Pro boxing, it's a completely meaningless stat. But I probably don't need to explain that to you, you seem to know your stuff. 

No, it all adds up to years of training, wear and tear and fighting, as well as be dismissive of the heavy hitters Usyk has had to regularly face by comparison in the ring putting in some serious mileage. 

[Council Scum]

Roy Jones Jr. had a career total of 121 amateur fights and won a silver medal at the 1988 Olympics. His professional career included 66 wins and 10 losses in 76 total fights before his bout with Joe Calzaghe, which he lost by unanimous decision.  Amateur and Olympic record

• Amateur record: 121 wins and 13 losses.
• 1988 Olympics: Won a silver medal at the 1988 Seoul Olympics as a light middleweight for the United States. 

Oleksandr Usyk's record up to his second professional fight with Daniel Dubois in July 2025 stands at 359 total fights (335 amateur, 24 professional) with only 15 losses, all in his amateur career. 

Usyk had a highly decorated amateur career with an official record of 335 wins and 15 losses, culminating in an Olympic gold medal at the London 2012 Games. 

• Amateur and Olympic Fights: Usyk had an extensive and highly successful amateur career, competing in approximately 350 fights with a record of 335 wins and 15 losses. His amateur career included winning a gold medal at the 2012 London Olympics and a bronze medal at the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
• Professional Fights: Prior to his first bout with Dubois, Usyk was an undefeated professional boxer with a record of 20 wins and 0 losses (13 by knockout). 

And as I said previous, has also been in the ring against some of the heaviest hitters around so he's taken his fair share of punishment in the ring as well down the years.

Amateur boxing is nothing like Pro boxing, it's a completely meaningless stat. But I probably don't need to explain that to you, you seem to know your stuff. 

[Massive Attack]

Roy Jones Jr. had a career total of 121 amateur fights and won a silver medal at the 1988 Olympics. His professional career included 66 wins and 10 losses in 76 total fights before his bout with Joe Calzaghe, which he lost by unanimous decision.  Amateur and Olympic record

• Amateur record: 121 wins and 13 losses.
• 1988 Olympics: Won a silver medal at the 1988 Seoul Olympics as a light middleweight for the United States. 

Oleksandr Usyk's record up to his second professional fight with Daniel Dubois in July 2025 stands at 359 total fights (335 amateur, 24 professional) with only 15 losses, all in his amateur career. 

Usyk had a highly decorated amateur career with an official record of 335 wins and 15 losses, culminating in an Olympic gold medal at the London 2012 Games. 

• Amateur and Olympic Fights: Usyk had an extensive and highly successful amateur career, competing in approximately 350 fights with a record of 335 wins and 15 losses. His amateur career included winning a gold medal at the 2012 London Olympics and a bronze medal at the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
• Professional Fights: Prior to his first bout with Dubois, Usyk was an undefeated professional boxer with a record of 20 wins and 0 losses (13 by knockout). 

And as I said previous, has also been in the ring against some of the heaviest hitters around so he's taken his fair share of punishment in the ring as well down the years.

[Lee Trundle]

I thought Eubank was surprisingly graceful in defeat.

You can blame Eddie Hearn for these shitty match ups and fights.  He's been terrible for boxing.

[Council Scum]

And yet someone like Usyk continues to go undefeated having also fought and won at different weight classes against some of the heaviest hitters around at a similar age to Roy Jones Junior losing to Calzaghe and on record as saying he's happy to continue on for another 3 years till he's 41. No one is denying Jones Junior wasn't quality, just that he wasn't as good as Calzaghe. 

Usyk fights around once to twice a year at best, he's had 24 fights. Jnr had 57 by the time he fought Joe. 

[Council Scum]

How did one of the lemons only score that by 6 rounds? It was a drubbing. 
 

Especially when the last round was a 10-8 or even a 10-7 round. That would mean he gave Eubank at least four rounds. Still, the right result in the end

If the Ref was doing his job, it wouldn't have been a knock down, it's a back of the head punch and he should have been given time to recover. 

[Council Scum]

It was a shit fight that never should have happened.

If you listened to the commentary, Benn dominated every round, Eubank didn't land a punch, it wasn't like that at all. So why people were surprised by some of the score cards I don't know.

Benn is a dope cheat that never cleared his name, Eubank was completely drained, they wanted their Dad's in their prime, they got two fighters at different points in their careers, weights and age, but money talks.

Boxing is now about the right marketing, not talent. 

Get ready for Jake v AJ. 

[Nutsin]

I rather enjoyed both Benn Jr v Eubank Jr fights. Better  fights than most. Not quite as good as any of the Gotti v Ward fights but still very entertaining. Boxing needs more of these fights.

[Briano]

Eubank left everything in a puddle of sweat on the floor of the gym

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

Not sure how true this is, but have just read that Mark Kaylor has passed away.
 

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As it stands after last night’s travesty of a “fight,” where sometimes the crowd whistled in derision of the spectacle, it is unlikely that fans will have their trousers taken down for a best of three meeting of Eubank Benn.

So I expect we will be lead down the path of other fights, that take careers nowhere, such as Joshua against anyone. The big con will be a Joshua Fury encounter, or two. A pair of washed up worn out husks whom the promoters will explain don’t really want to fight but the public are demanding it be so.

[goose]

Junior has made an awful lot of money from being a very average fighter.

[GBHammer63]

Amazing that so called judges had such varied scores, surely they are looking for the same things. If they were within a point or so of each other then fair enough but it’s like they are judging with bias.

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

How did one of the lemons only score that by 6 rounds? It was a drubbing. 


 

 

 

By my recknoning, he didn't.
He only gave Benn a 4 round victory:

Benn (8 x 10 pts + 4 x 9p pts) = 116 pts total
Eubank (4 x 10 pts + 8 x 9 pts) = 112 pts - 2 (for the double knockdown) = 110 pts total

8 to 4 in Benns favour.
Absolutely farcical scoring.

[Iron Duke]

How did one of the lemons only score that by 6 rounds? It was a drubbing. 

Especially when the last round was a 10-8 or even a 10-7 round. That would mean he gave Eubank at least four rounds. Still, the right result in the end

[Far Cough UKunt]

Gotta support the Benns, aren't they West Ham?

[Takashi Miike]

[GBHammer63]

Pleased that Benn won, and easily, but the reality is neither of those boys could lace their father’s gloves, time will tell how good Conor is but he definitely proved there’s a much improved fighter in him. Nigel was my favourite back in the day, fought like every shot he hit his opponent with he was trying to finish the fight.
Good entertainment and nice to see some humility from Eubank. 

[Massive Attack]

I actually have a soft spot for all 4 of them for different reasons. All big characters in their own right and the Benn/Eubank names a real credit to the sport. Always full of entertainment.