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"Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur all agree to plan. Five English clubs are among 11 European teams who have signed up to a breakaway Super League in an extraordinary development on the eve of Uefa's announcement of a new Champions League format. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/18/sports/soccer/super-league-united-liverpool-juventus-madrid.html"
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"Judging by the deafening silence radiating from the more authoritative factions of the ESL, I assume an outcome such as this was insured against - so expect your car and house premiums to go through the roof next year to pay for this."
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damn all those pesky small clubs taking money away from the 'big 12'. how are they supposed to afford Bale's wages now??
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damn all those pesky small clubs taking money away from the 'big 12'. how are they supposed to afford Bale's wages now??
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"There are some other unbelievable quotes from this cսnt. Totally arrogant and lacking in self awareness and just digging his heels in further. And the fact they've been working on this for THREE YEARS. ""Maybe we didn't explain it well, but they also didn't give us an opportunity to explain it,"" said the 74-year-old. ""I've been in football for 20 years and I've never seen threats like this. It was like we killed someone. It was like we killed football. But we were trying to work out how to save football."" A revamped 36-team Champions League, starting in 2024, was agreed on Monday, although the ESL teams had said in its announcement of Sunday it did not think Uefa's reforms went far enough. ""The Champions League format is old and only interesting from the quarter-finals onwards,"" said Perez. ""This format clearly doesn't work, so we thought that we could have a format where the most important teams in Europe play against each other from the very beginning of the season. ""We worked out the numbers and felt we could make much more money, more money for all the other teams too."" Claims that the detractors 'don't understand' the project. No. We understand it perfectly you greedy cսnt. You just want more money for Real at the expense of everyone else."
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I'm just hoping someone at Super League HQ is lining up a suit against Tottenham in particular for a £100m+ breach of contract case. That takes 3 years in court with the lawyers fees more than their wage bill
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Does the spastic even realise he's just described capitalism?
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"According to Perez: 'It isn't fair that in England six are losing and 14 winning, that big clubs in Spain are losing money and the small clubs are earning money. Football is a pyramid. If there is money at the top, then the money flows down and everyone gets some."" I'm sure we can all agree with that. Maybe we can use the WHO fund to help out these poor big clubs."
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Hmmm Perez talks a lot and avoids focus on the contract itself... not so convinced he's got this covered now. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56842442
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Nailed on that JP More Gain will come out of this smelling of roses and not a single cent out of pocket.
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"cholo 9:58 Thu Apr 22 Re: Football Super league rumours yet again !! The elephant in the room is players wages and agents fees. The likes of Barcelona and Real Madrid can't afford to pay them forever, neither can they afford to not attract the world's best. They are up shit creek and terrified of a more level playing field where perhaps a Valencia or Seville can attract the same players on relatively speaking more sensible wages. The artificial mystique of the ""big"" clubs would soon start to fade if some sort of financial parity was implemented."
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"Yes, I very much hope Perez isn't bluffing and has got them TRUSSED UP nice and proper."
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Pickle-I didn't read the whole story. Wouldn't say what the penalties were. Story on BBC
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Perez still seems confident they are all tied to this - but then he is a bit of a nut job. I hope they get proper screwed over.
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"Fair play. Did Perez go into any sort of detail as to what was in these ""binding contracts""?"
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"That's correct goose, all of the reaction could easily have been forecast, the one exception was Boris. Once he spoke up, and got involved talking to fan groups etc., it folded fairly quickly. Dressing this up as a fans victory is nonsense. It was the threat that Boris could interfere with the work permit situation, and impose windfall taxes on these clubs, that made them write off their initial £8 million joining up fee, and presumably accept any fines that may be coming for withdrawing for the ESL."
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"Speaking on the El Larguero show on Spanish radio station Cadena Ser, Super League chairman Perez claimed all 12 clubs ""have not left yet"". ""You cannot get out of the contract like this - they are binding contracts,"" he added."
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"They don't need traditional media outlets to reach people. They can host their own PPV sites and get the scheduling/payment messages out via social media. Broadband/3G/4G access to their target audience has long exceeded the ""critical numbers"" needed to do this. All that's needed is judicious use of ESL corporate branding across the sites."
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the owners of the 'big 6' are all very astute people who have made a living having to gauge peoples/customers reactions to certain ideas. they must have seen this reaction coming surely?? and yet at the first sign of trouble they bottled it. seems a bit odd to me - maybe it was government involvement that did it. anyway they've had their punishment with senior figures removed from pointless committees and advisories. lets all pretend it never happened.
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"I'd say the key to making sense of this swift collapse is the lack of clarity on the source of broadcasting, sponsorship and advertising revenues. They floated it on the assumption there would be at least some interest, may be a feeding frenzy El Dorado; as it turned out, there was a frenzy and they were dinner. Like I say, there is a Netflix series in this, and Louis Litt has to be representing Levy."
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"Mike Oxsaw 10:38 Thu Apr 22 Problem with that is the teams that have now pulled out are the teams with global interest. PSG, Bayern and Dortmund have stated they will neve be part of it. And so, what you are proposing is a ESL but with about as much gravitas as the Europa League in its early section of the league format. There just won't be any TV revenue for it."
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"Russ BT came out just as emphatically. Not sure about Sky, but I'd wager they were not involved. The 'Big Six': Hey, Sky, Guys! Sky: Wassup? TBS: We've got a great plan. We'll set up a new ESL which we'll broadcast on our own platform and cut you out of and leave our stiffs to play in the PL which you pay a king's ransom for. Sky: Erm, what's in it for us? TBS: Nothing! Ha-ha!"
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"I'd hope you're right, Kaiser son, but I suspect the worst they'll get is a slap on the wrist in the name of unity and reconciliation."
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This won't go away - they just need 2 or 3 more teams to get above a certain level (income/turnover/etc.) then they will feel they can get it over the line. It might actually be in their interest to have the likes of us/Leicester/Everton win stuff for a couple of seasons to bolster their numbers before they shit on us all again.
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This won't go away - they just need 2 or 3 more teams to get above a certain level (income/turnover/etc.) then they will feel they can get it over the line. It might actually be in their interest to have the likes of us/Leicester/Everton win stuff for a couple of seasons to bolster their numbers before they shit on us all again.
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"SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:41 Thu Apr 22 Amazon have already issued a statement saying they had no part in discussions or the creation of it. That they are aligned firmly to the pyramid and the roots of fair competition, promotion and relegation. And, to be fair to them, they said this before it all collapsed so wasn't a way of trying to get out with minimal damage to reputation. As someone said the other day on the news, how bad and disgusting a concept this is when FIFA, UEFA, The PL, Boris Johnson and Amazon all come out of it looking good. LOL!"
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