HS2 may not run through to central London - report

[Westham67]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64421566 They are making it up as they go along Its not surprising as ground was broken too early just to push to the project through Crossrail on steroids

[arsene york-hunt]

From Euston to Manchester there is a train every 20 minutes and it takes 2 hours and about 20 minutes. How much quicker does the journey need to be? You could always give the passengers a free word search or puzzler book to pass the time if it's too long.

[ray winstone]

Northern section dead in the water.... eeee bah gum.

[RBshorty]

Money gets tight. The shit gets real. Classic case of British politician kicking the can down the road when it comes too infrastructure in this country.

[Westham67]

Talking to my self again HS2 have instructed the contractors on section 2a (connection between the East and West midlands) to stop work for 2 (Two )years. Old oak common to Birmingham is the section to be focused on . Predicted finish 2035 to 2040 I would put another 5 years on that HS2 are getting to the stage (Which I have seen many times) of doing something for the sake of it like awarding the contracts for trains fit out and and station fit outs Gathering dust for decades I spoke with 2 people who worked on cross rail many of the materials or components that were bought prior to work starting were obsolete by the time it came to installation

[Westham67]

"Euston all work stopped and workers laid off Section 2a tunnelling is scheduled to start in roughly a years time and will take about 10 weeks and then cross passages, cable runs, walkways , track, signalling OCS pole (Overhead catenary system) and LOADs more For those who like BORING machines link below https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/960814/F2_Phase_2a_Tunnels_v1.2.pdf"

[Westham67]

Harry Enfield loads of money

[Westham67]

£600 a day for track person

[balders]

Westham67 9:30 Sun Mar 12 Re: HS2 may not run through to central London - report He is track man balders that where the WONGA is now Still on lower rate mate £600 a day is not massive for top staff

[Mike Oxsaw]

"I've been parachuted into similar projects - some, like this one, it seems, are irredeemable. I've always felt that this little baby was set up as the proverbial sacrificial lamb - there was never any intention to actually complete this as all (ALL) political parties hate, for their own reasons, the railways in the UK (and this time you really can blame Thatcher...and Beeching...and Bevin). Short of cash? Pare back HS2. Still Short of cash? Downgrade/delay HS2 STILL short of cash? Redefine the HS2 deliverables. As someone else mentioned earlier, it will end up as a low speed alternative N/S freight-only route with links to the still under review Varsity line in the south and a big, fuck-off freight marshalling yard at Crewe."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"I've been parachuted into similar projects - some, like this one, it seems, are irredeemable. I've always felt that this little baby was set up as the proverbial sacrificial lamb - there was never any intention to actually complete this as all (ALL) political parties hate, for their own reasons, the railways in the UK (and this time you really can blame Thatcher...and Beeching...and Bevin). Short of cash? Pare back HS2. Still Short of cash? Downgrade/delay HS2 STILL short of cash? Redefine the HS2 deliverables. As someone else mentioned earlier, it will end up as a low speed alternative N/S freight-only route with links to the still under review Varsity line in the south and a big, fuck-off freight marshalling yard at Crewe."

[Westham67]

Mike Oxsaw 2:50 Fri Mar 10 Its looking like the can is being kicked down the road for an independent review to question and rewrite the intended benefits and design criteria for the program The 2A Birmingham interchange area contractors are recruiting again filling the ranks in order to submit a notice of delay claim to HS2 I have worked on a shit project which is years late and well over budget but its not even 10% of the size and cost that HS2 is going to be Talking to myself again

[Westham67]

He is track man balders that where the WONGA is now

[Mike Oxsaw]

"£600 a day = six figure salary. Well, when I say ""six figure salary"", I mean that the figure six is mentioned..."

[balders]

Bloke can’t be in signaling if he is only on £600 a day

[Westham67]

"Any contactors currently holding a contract with HS2 to be working in any areas being delayed will be entitled to payment for staff , plant and equipment from HS2 for the delay period"

[zebthecat]

COOL HAND LUKE 11:20 Sat Mar 11 Keeping down the total cost is absolutely not what they are doing. It is keeping down the yearly spend. I used to work for the Procurement Executive in the MoD and we had to do that sort of thing every year on projects. It invariably puts the total cost up by dint of inflation alone before you get to things like economy of scale and disrupting the schedule.

[COOL HAND LUKE]

...LEADING up to 2024...

[COOL HAND LUKE]

It'll all get pushed back now until after the GE... They are saying they are delaying it to help get the costs down? Surely going forwards the costs will increase? It's defo looking like a tactic to take something contentious off the table elading up to 2024...

[Westham67]

Its a sign of high intelligence

[Far Cough]

Talking to yerself again?

[Westham67]

"One of the JV civils contractors for HS2 doing all the interchange work around Birmingham stopped recruiting about 2 weeks so I reckon there will be more ""Amendments"" to the scope of the project and the completion dates"

[Kaiser Zoso]

"Sorry pal, Corbyn"

[Claret Badger]

I BLAME BREXIT AND STARMER

[Westham67]

Moncurs Putting Iron 3:44 Fri Mar 10 I 100% agree HS2 should not have happened and the existing network should be renewed

[overbyyer]

"Apparently Phase 1 between Old Oak Common and Birmingham is 40% complete? Reckon before any of the track is laid Phase 1 will revert to an arterial route stopping at the new towns planned along the route, possibly even to connect just north of Aylesbury as it crosses over the East/West Varsity line currently being reinstated between Oxford and Cambridge."