Can a mod reboot the server?

[BRANDED]

???

[Bouncing Ludo]

"Nurse Ratched wrote... Re: Can a mod reboot the server? I doubt hosts will give a hoot what is on the forum as long as it's not promoting racism, homophobia or overly political Oh, I see what you mean. Seriously though, it's down to the site mods to decide what is acceptable, as long as it's not unlawful (I imagine)"

[Nurse Ratched]

MODS! You see what Riddle said to me there? I'm starting a dossier...

[J.Riddle]

Fuck off Ratched! We all know you've got a beard.

[Nurse Ratched]

"My only concern is how interfering a new 'host' would be. I can't imagine there are many WHOers who would enjoy the censorship policies of modern forums. No swearing, no personal attacks, etc."

[wils]

If no nobody is able or willing to do the upgrades. There is another solution. Admittedly more complex but doable. Set up a new off-the-peg-site. Write a script to scrape the content from this site into that new set up. Create all the existing usernames the same way. Then each user can 'claim' their username on the new site by whomailing whoever set it up. You're welcome!

[Hermit Road]

There's been a few threads in the not so distant past where plenty of us offered to cover the costs of this site. Not right that one person has to carry it all and it couldn't cost much for a few of us to chip in. Shouldn't be too hard to set up a facility for it. I still think that's a good idea.

[collyrob]

Does anyone know Steven H in real life?

[Jasnik]

"I thought WHO was like me. Getting older, slower and been here forever and won't stand for change. As I say when people who come to see my team play (over 40/50) it is like real football but much slower. Like this site."

[riosleftsock]

"Ludo Either early last year or the previous, there was a thread and it was pointed out that the domain was about to expire. I bought a similar domain name and paid for 2 years hosting, just asked that somebody do the set up and run it, I was happy to hand it over to others. Nobody got back to me, the old domain renewed (maybe by Stephen on DD, or its an obscure corner of the internet that even Douglas Adams hadn't heard of)"

[BRANDED]

I assume someone has spoken with the hosting company?

[zebthecat]

"defjam 3:13 Tue Aug 15 Oh well - thanks for that anyway. I already had a sort of plan (migrate the database first, which would have been simple, and then think about the application) but that is obviously not possible. Encrypted firewalls my arse! Since it is with a hosting company they would have sorted.that our or else they would have been out of business years ago. There will be a whitelist of IP adresses that can connect to the db for starters as well as login credentials (which we do not have). You can't hack a database unless it is public facing which nobody with half a braincell would ever do. It might be possible to fuck it up with SQL injection but I am not about to test that."

[mallard]

"Didn’t realise North Bank was the sole donator to this site. He’s got every right to close the Groundhog Day threads, maybe even deserves a gift from the Who Fund. This site has always been slow on Matchdays but in the past few days it’s been painful. I’ll happily pay a subscription for an updated site, but would need to be the same format and not like the layout on KUMB"

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

defjam 3:13 Thanks for the definitive answer fella.

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

defjam 3:13 Thanks for the definitive answer fella.

[Swiss.]

"Look at Oxbore using Project Terms like “Sand Box”. Maybe you can setup an SIT, UAT and DEV environment as well? You need don’t need “keys” Defjam Someone can easily hack this type of database on MySQL. It hardly going to be full of encrypted firewalls etc ."

[defjam]

"MaryMillingtonsGhost 9:27 Mon Aug 14 'I suppose the simple question is does anyone have contact with the individual that has the 'keys' to this site/domain?' Well the answer to that is NO! As discuused already on this thread amongst other things. Basically me, Ged, NB and Steven H took over the site from Alex many moons ago, we had ideas of this and that, had loads of meetings, Steven H always took notes as the IT guy, but apart from a few tweaks nothing major was really ever done and here we are. Obviously with the advent of social media etc and other things the site took a back seat, I messaged Steven H on Twitter (Never read) although he still was active, The number I had is dead and Emails go unansered so NB has paid for the running of the site through his own pocket for years. Without the admin logins our hands are tied but the starting of a new site and us all migrating there might work, if it was feasable? The sites helped so many over the years and despite so many cunts on here it's amazing we can mosyly all pull together when the shit hits the fans for someone."

[Mike Oxsaw]

zebthecat 11:18 Mon Aug 14 OK - I can look into ring-fencing a part of my NAS as a test bed then giving access to whoever wants to play with the clone/new site. Give me a chance to run this past Northbank and see if it's possible to get a copy of the code without the user data that we can play with.

[Bouncing Ludo]

"riosleftsock 9:43 Mon Aug 14 According to WHOIS, it is hosted on easyspace and domain is next up for renewal in April 2024. Does that sound right ? If you have paid it, then easyspace must be able to give you access to the control panel etc."

[Willtell]

The WHO steam driven file server needs more coke in the boiler…. Seriously this endless wait is ridiculous.

[zebthecat]

Mike Oxsaw 10:47 Mon Aug 14 A NAS bix could be handy for data migration which is a piece of cake with MySQL. There are two ways it can be done but both invlove have somewhere to temporarily store the data (or mysqldump ouput depending on which way you use) before ftp to the receiving server. Also some faffing about with ssh keys but it is pretty easy and quick.

[yngwies Cat]

"Fuckin hell Mike! The thought of a Who clone being inflected in on the world. At least with a fucked clock, it won't become 'Self - Aware'."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"A possible solution would be to build a clone of this site first off to run in parallel with this one, but using dummy data/a few testers. Think those ITK call that sort of thing a ""sand box"" where coders can fuck about all day long and not risk the live site. On the clone, new options can be suggested, argued over and tested. Someone will have to assume the role of a project manager in order to have any chance of getting over the inevitable bickering about what the site should look like/do and I suspect there'll be industrial grade screeching washerwomen over that, too, before we even get to talking about hosts and coding. I've got more than enough room to host it on my mirrored NAS but unwilling to offer the admin access required as that kind of defeats the primary reason for me buying them in the first place, plus I'm moving - apparently - to Mudhutstan, so the site could end up being hosted on jungle drums and discarded artificial limbs."

[riosleftsock]

"IIRC the site admin is the problem, was it Stephen H? He was given the keys by Alex and all, and threw a hissy fit and flounced off. I paid for webhosting and domain name last time the subject came up, nobody offered to contribute, so i chucked a few hundred quid away. Am happy to contribute a decent chunk, I have no tech expertise in this area, and would not want to donate if a childish, leftie twat like Northbank has any control over what is posted."

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

"I suppose the simple question is does anyone have contact with the individual that has the 'keys' to this site/domain? I would've thought that, in order to move the existing WHO site across to a different host, permission would need to be given by the existing site owner. I can't really see the point, imho, of setting up a new site and giving a link to this site, for posteritys sake. What happens when this site DOES finally dissapear? I really know fuck all about this so am probably wrong. NB, I've messaged you, and am happy to contribute if neccessary."

[swindon hammer]

Maybe put it to the WHO polls. Either upgrade this site (If possible) or create a new one.