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Potter Out
Had enough of this arogrant no mark now.
11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.
Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.
11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.
Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.
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Re: Potter Out
Soler - Alvarez - Paqueta
Over
Soucek - Rodney - JWP
Every day of the week, twice on Saturdays, thrice on Sundays.
I'm not saying that midfield is anything special, but it's miles better than those 3 fucking plodders. He's had ample chance to do it, and it's clearly why Alvarez is fucked off, he was playing him as an attacking midfielder with the chuckle brothers behind him.
There are changes he's had at his fingertips, not to make us world beaters but to give us a fighting fucking chance. His team selections are baffling, verging on dereliction of duty. Add to that the moribund, boring, sideways to-me-to-you style of football that was in fashion 5 years ago, it's been a fucking disaster.
I actually think he'll do 'ok' next season, because we'll buy some better players, and we'll stink the place out but win a few more games which are close, rather than lose them. But it'll be bone-crushingly boring mostly, and will have us in the top half of the bottom half. Some of our fans will be buzzing with that. But this league is not all it's cracked up to be, and if we got a proper manager in, made a few shrewd signings, no reason we couldn't be the season's dark horses.
However, he is here to stay. As with every summer, I'll wipe the slate clean, get behind him, and hope for a miracle.
Over
Soucek - Rodney - JWP
Every day of the week, twice on Saturdays, thrice on Sundays.
I'm not saying that midfield is anything special, but it's miles better than those 3 fucking plodders. He's had ample chance to do it, and it's clearly why Alvarez is fucked off, he was playing him as an attacking midfielder with the chuckle brothers behind him.
There are changes he's had at his fingertips, not to make us world beaters but to give us a fighting fucking chance. His team selections are baffling, verging on dereliction of duty. Add to that the moribund, boring, sideways to-me-to-you style of football that was in fashion 5 years ago, it's been a fucking disaster.
I actually think he'll do 'ok' next season, because we'll buy some better players, and we'll stink the place out but win a few more games which are close, rather than lose them. But it'll be bone-crushingly boring mostly, and will have us in the top half of the bottom half. Some of our fans will be buzzing with that. But this league is not all it's cracked up to be, and if we got a proper manager in, made a few shrewd signings, no reason we couldn't be the season's dark horses.
However, he is here to stay. As with every summer, I'll wipe the slate clean, get behind him, and hope for a miracle.
Re: Potter Out
This season has been an outright fucking disaster. I can count the amount of games I enjoyed on one hand.
The main issue for me was the transfers in summer. Tim/Loppy/Sulivan filled the spine of our team with such cumbersome shit, on top of the cumbersome shit we already had. Throw in Kudus' terrible form & the Paqueta stuff - I just feel any manager would struggle. I also think Potter has been piss poor so far and we seem to be going backwards, but Im willing to cut a little slack based on what he inherited.
This summer is massive for the fans, the club, for Sullivan and for him. Do I have faith we'll get it right? No. Do I think changing the manager will make much difference? Also, no, not at this point.
The main issue for me was the transfers in summer. Tim/Loppy/Sulivan filled the spine of our team with such cumbersome shit, on top of the cumbersome shit we already had. Throw in Kudus' terrible form & the Paqueta stuff - I just feel any manager would struggle. I also think Potter has been piss poor so far and we seem to be going backwards, but Im willing to cut a little slack based on what he inherited.
This summer is massive for the fans, the club, for Sullivan and for him. Do I have faith we'll get it right? No. Do I think changing the manager will make much difference? Also, no, not at this point.
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I can see a disaster in this window.
Potter and his team will identify the players they want and Sullivan will only sanction those - if any - who are contracted to his preferred agents/mates.
Last week of the window becoming an absolute stitch-up as the whole footballing world will see/know what/who we want/need and will give Sulkivan a proper old East End schooling in the art of negotiation.
Potter and his team will identify the players they want and Sullivan will only sanction those - if any - who are contracted to his preferred agents/mates.
Last week of the window becoming an absolute stitch-up as the whole footballing world will see/know what/who we want/need and will give Sulkivan a proper old East End schooling in the art of negotiation.
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His decision making is constantly wacky. Starting 3 Full Backs in games, with 1 out of position when we have a specialised Left Wing Back/Left Back on the Bench and another as a Centre Half. Soucek as a No. 10 when Paqueta also kicks his heels on the Bench. Chooses arguably our worst player in the Squad who's past it over fitter, younger, better midfielders than him like Alvarez or Soler. Then playing with 0 Strikers, even though he has not 1 but 2 specialist Strikers that are continually ignored on the Bench. 9 defensive player's and yet we still concede 2 at Home and it should have been more.
I bet the player's avoid him at all costs in the canteen for fear of being bored to death.
And so much for not conceding early goals anymore. If he buys 1 thing in the Summer, it's a new king size blanket to put over his head.
I bet the player's avoid him at all costs in the canteen for fear of being bored to death.
And so much for not conceding early goals anymore. If he buys 1 thing in the Summer, it's a new king size blanket to put over his head.
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He fucking needs to hit the ground running.
This summer's transfer window is going to be absolutely massive. We all know what we need, and fucking hell we need a lot, but can we get it, and when we do, will it have a positive effect on our play?
So many parts of the squad need to be basically gutted. Our centre mid is just a complete disaster.
This summer's transfer window is going to be absolutely massive. We all know what we need, and fucking hell we need a lot, but can we get it, and when we do, will it have a positive effect on our play?
So many parts of the squad need to be basically gutted. Our centre mid is just a complete disaster.
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I wonder a bit who people would play in midfield out of the squad we have to cure the problem of a slow, turgid group in there
Could a different manager get the current squad to function better?
Personally I don’t understand playing Rodriguez ahead of Soler & we need to play a centre forward
Obviously Rodriquez is going and I’d be moving Soucek & JWP on
Can we find 3 more suitable players with not much money?
Hmmm
If it’s not Potter another manager … our 4th in 12 months … has the same task
Could a different manager get the current squad to function better?
Personally I don’t understand playing Rodriguez ahead of Soler & we need to play a centre forward
Obviously Rodriquez is going and I’d be moving Soucek & JWP on
Can we find 3 more suitable players with not much money?
Hmmm
If it’s not Potter another manager … our 4th in 12 months … has the same task
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I was backing him and part of me still thinks give him the summer and see how we start next season. But it has been a massively underwhelming start by Potter. Was hoping a win yesterday and against Ipswich may have shown promise but can see us losing or getting a draw at Portman Rd to finish off a season to forget.
Wouldn't blame Bowen going in the summer as he deserves to be playing for a top 4 side in Champions league.
Wouldn't blame Bowen going in the summer as he deserves to be playing for a top 4 side in Champions league.
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Re: Potter Out
twoleftfeet wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 11:51 I’m backing him, he inherited a lot of shit so let’s see what he does when he gets his players in.
Some of you should be worrying more about big Ange at your own club than worrying about West Ham.
Of course you're backing him, you've never parted with a penny of your own dough to go over that shithole of a stadium to cheer on the team, so it's no skin off your nose what manager is in charge.
Hollow words cheerleading on here. Put your money where your mouth is and go over there to watch the shit he's been serving up, you'll soon change your mind.
Hollow words cheerleading on here. Put your money where your mouth is and go over there to watch the shit he's been serving up, you'll soon change your mind.
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Ferguson was a player he wanted in the last window which the Club managed to bring in for him and he barely played him at all.
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I’m backing him, he inherited a lot of shit so let’s see what he does when he gets his players in.
Some of you should be worrying more about big Ange at your own club than worrying about West Ham.
Some of you should be worrying more about big Ange at your own club than worrying about West Ham.
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The good news is we have relegated Ipswich next who have won only once in the last 18 League matches and they've only won once at Home all season long in the Premier League. Surely not even Potter can fuck that up.
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Is anyone still backing Potter now? I'm not sure there is.
It's unlikely he will get the sack, simply based on Sullivan not wanting to look a dick again. But deep down is Sullivan content to pay £100m in transfers under Potter. Almost certainly not. So it would seem that Sullivan is now sitting there thinking how he gets out of this situation with the least damage. Is it get Potter the players he wants and hopes it works? Or just get rid now and look a dick?
Thing is, Sullivan is probably one of the most hated men ever associated with West Ham and so looking a dick isn't that much of a deal, so he may as well just get rid now. Slither off to his rock. Then come back out in the sunshine to bathe in the glory of what will no doubt he his next terrible appointment.
It's unlikely he will get the sack, simply based on Sullivan not wanting to look a dick again. But deep down is Sullivan content to pay £100m in transfers under Potter. Almost certainly not. So it would seem that Sullivan is now sitting there thinking how he gets out of this situation with the least damage. Is it get Potter the players he wants and hopes it works? Or just get rid now and look a dick?
Thing is, Sullivan is probably one of the most hated men ever associated with West Ham and so looking a dick isn't that much of a deal, so he may as well just get rid now. Slither off to his rock. Then come back out in the sunshine to bathe in the glory of what will no doubt he his next terrible appointment.
Re: Potter Out
As much as Forest annoyed me by falling over everytime we went near them I was inpressed on how Nuno changes his team and formation sometimes against different opposition. It seems we have had successive managers in Moyes, JL and Potter who stick with what they believe in even if they don't have the players to operate in that system. Any team who has Soucek, JWP and Guido is going to get passed around easily and that showed yeasterday again. The only argument you could make for Potter is that he inherited this crap but I am certainly not convinced that he can bring the players in to make it work or even have the finance to do so.
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Re: Potter Out
Maverick180180 wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 09:29BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 09:16Maverick180180 wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 08:53Cos for some reason there’s a tonne of people who won’t accept that he’s done a worse job than Lopetegui until he’s brought in HIS players
it’s like comparing 2 drivers in F1 who are on the same team, they’re both driving a car with the same engine, but imagine making an argument that the weaker driver would be better if he had a faster carAnd to continue the analogy imagine the driver is driving with the brakes on and only gets into 2nd gear!
if true, how is this clown getting away with what he’s done since he took over
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It is clear we won’t replace him. No way will we sack him before Christmas. I also doubt we’ll transform the squad as required, mainly because we won’t recoup anywhere near as much as we formed out in most of the players that will leave.
it will be more of the same. The ground is dead and we desperately need something to lift that shit hole. You could tell after that little cameo when Bowen scored and there was a bit of niggle what the fans want. Fuck knows why we don’t get that, but clearly Potter can’t create that in the team. Probably because he’s a fucking wet PE teacher type who players get away with murder with.
either way he ain’t for me. His interviews are worse the Lopi and I though that was near on impossible.
it will be more of the same. The ground is dead and we desperately need something to lift that shit hole. You could tell after that little cameo when Bowen scored and there was a bit of niggle what the fans want. Fuck knows why we don’t get that, but clearly Potter can’t create that in the team. Probably because he’s a fucking wet PE teacher type who players get away with murder with.
either way he ain’t for me. His interviews are worse the Lopi and I though that was near on impossible.
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Re: Potter Out
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 09:16Maverick180180 wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 08:53Rossal wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 08:38 We're fucked if we keep Potter. The bloke is useless.
Since he has come in what are the positives? The results are just as bad, the football has somehow got worse. He has fallen out with players, he isn't inspiring, his press conferences are a shambles already and the one bloke he brought in who he knew has been an absolute dud.
He has also given up with the youth and doesn't seem to have any idea of his best 11.
And people want to back him in the summer with a rebuild and £100m?!?!?
Bonkers, absolutely bonkers if we don't get rid after sunday.
Can anyone backing him tell me why we all should given his performance and the teams performance since he has come in?Cos for some reason there’s a tonne of people who won’t accept that he’s done a worse job than Lopetegui until he’s brought in HIS players
it’s like comparing 2 drivers in F1 who are on the same team, they’re both driving a car with the same engine, but imagine making an argument that the weaker driver would be better if he had a faster carAnd to continue the analogy imagine the driver is driving with the brakes on and only gets into 2nd gear!
It’s also been reported that Fonseca made Sullivan the offer that he could put a clause in his contract that if he didn’t get us in the top 10 after taking over from Lopetegui that he could be sacked with no compensation, and Sullivan turned it down cos he thought we should be in the top 10 anyway and that was no achievement
if true, how is this clown getting away with what he’s done since he took over
if true, how is this clown getting away with what he’s done since he took over
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Maverick180180 wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 08:53Rossal wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 08:38 We're fucked if we keep Potter. The bloke is useless.
Since he has come in what are the positives? The results are just as bad, the football has somehow got worse. He has fallen out with players, he isn't inspiring, his press conferences are a shambles already and the one bloke he brought in who he knew has been an absolute dud.
He has also given up with the youth and doesn't seem to have any idea of his best 11.
And people want to back him in the summer with a rebuild and £100m?!?!?
Bonkers, absolutely bonkers if we don't get rid after sunday.
Can anyone backing him tell me why we all should given his performance and the teams performance since he has come in?Cos for some reason there’s a tonne of people who won’t accept that he’s done a worse job than Lopetegui until he’s brought in HIS players
it’s like comparing 2 drivers in F1 who are on the same team, they’re both driving a car with the same engine, but imagine making an argument that the weaker driver would be better if he had a faster car
And to continue the analogy imagine the driver is driving with the brakes on and only gets into 2nd gear!
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Rossal wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 08:38 We're fucked if we keep Potter. The bloke is useless.
Since he has come in what are the positives? The results are just as bad, the football has somehow got worse. He has fallen out with players, he isn't inspiring, his press conferences are a shambles already and the one bloke he brought in who he knew has been an absolute dud.
He has also given up with the youth and doesn't seem to have any idea of his best 11.
And people want to back him in the summer with a rebuild and £100m?!?!?
Bonkers, absolutely bonkers if we don't get rid after sunday.
Can anyone backing him tell me why we all should given his performance and the teams performance since he has come in?
Cos for some reason there’s a tonne of people who won’t accept that he’s done a worse job than Lopetegui until he’s brought in HIS players
it’s like comparing 2 drivers in F1 who are on the same team, they’re both driving a car with the same engine, but imagine making an argument that the weaker driver would be better if he had a faster car
it’s like comparing 2 drivers in F1 who are on the same team, they’re both driving a car with the same engine, but imagine making an argument that the weaker driver would be better if he had a faster car
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We're fucked if we keep Potter. The bloke is useless.
Since he has come in what are the positives? The results are just as bad, the football has somehow got worse. He has fallen out with players, he isn't inspiring, his press conferences are a shambles already and the one bloke he brought in who he knew has been an absolute dud.
He has also given up with the youth and doesn't seem to have any idea of his best 11.
And people want to back him in the summer with a rebuild and £100m?!?!?
Bonkers, absolutely bonkers if we don't get rid after sunday.
Can anyone backing him tell me why we all should given his performance and the teams performance since he has come in?
Since he has come in what are the positives? The results are just as bad, the football has somehow got worse. He has fallen out with players, he isn't inspiring, his press conferences are a shambles already and the one bloke he brought in who he knew has been an absolute dud.
He has also given up with the youth and doesn't seem to have any idea of his best 11.
And people want to back him in the summer with a rebuild and £100m?!?!?
Bonkers, absolutely bonkers if we don't get rid after sunday.
Can anyone backing him tell me why we all should given his performance and the teams performance since he has come in?
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I remain completely unconvinced by him, and if Sullivan is backing him for the job then it's probably the wrong decision to keep him on.
I'll give him somewhat of a clean slate over the summer (it'll be difficult to forget how awful we've been under him this season), but next season is likely to make him or break him as a top flight manager.
I'm concerned about next season. We have to back the manager seeing how many players are likely to leave, and if it goes wrong we're back to where were were last season but with much better promoted teams to contend with.
I just hope there's no Kilman type transfers anymore if we are backing the manager.
I'll give him somewhat of a clean slate over the summer (it'll be difficult to forget how awful we've been under him this season), but next season is likely to make him or break him as a top flight manager.
I'm concerned about next season. We have to back the manager seeing how many players are likely to leave, and if it goes wrong we're back to where were were last season but with much better promoted teams to contend with.
I just hope there's no Kilman type transfers anymore if we are backing the manager.
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I was under the impression that Potter was a smart coach and tactically astute.
Right now he's managing us in exactly the same way that Moyes did which led him to the club not renewing his contract.
Moyes used to have the same negative approach to Man City away as he did for Sheffield Utd at home. When we were desperate for a result because most of our players are under performing, he's make the most underwhelming changes or make none, and expect a different result.
Potter played a very average team at Man Utd and whilst we played ok, the result was more a reflection on how shit and uninterested Man Utd were. But Potter decided that is the team that can beat Forrest, who are a better team, are playing away from home, play in a different style, are desperate for points - in reality a completely different game and opponent.
Moyes criticism was that you could pick a more dull and uninspiring line-up for games if you tired and now Potter is losing the fans before a ball is even kicked with such boring and negative approach to games.
I fully expect us to be groaning when we see the line-up against Ipswich next week.
Right now he's managing us in exactly the same way that Moyes did which led him to the club not renewing his contract.
Moyes used to have the same negative approach to Man City away as he did for Sheffield Utd at home. When we were desperate for a result because most of our players are under performing, he's make the most underwhelming changes or make none, and expect a different result.
Potter played a very average team at Man Utd and whilst we played ok, the result was more a reflection on how shit and uninterested Man Utd were. But Potter decided that is the team that can beat Forrest, who are a better team, are playing away from home, play in a different style, are desperate for points - in reality a completely different game and opponent.
Moyes criticism was that you could pick a more dull and uninspiring line-up for games if you tired and now Potter is losing the fans before a ball is even kicked with such boring and negative approach to games.
I fully expect us to be groaning when we see the line-up against Ipswich next week.
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“We don’t break quickly because our only outlet is the wing backs”.
This is spot on, and there’s lots to say about it.
Unfortunately, I missed yesterdays game due to work (was out of London), but caught up on it in full last night. Poor, yet again, as we all know.
One of the many things that concerns me about Partridge, is that he’s yet another of the modern day managers who relies too heavily on the now-simplistic full-back “overlap” to create the few chances his teams do.
Its like the only thing he’s learned in football management is the one thing everybody learned years ago: that two full-backs with huge lungs can give you the numerical advantage out wide when you finally break. Every manager with half a brain cell learned this tactic from others years ago, but then went on to develop other approaches, options and looks. Ours tore that page out of the modern coaching manual and left the building. Like a junior doctor running off with the chapter on teeth before pursuing a career in dentistry.
Potter is a one-trick pony. His teams aimlessly fanny around until the opportunity to create that overload presents itself. And often that opportunity doesn’t present itself, so we “just” aimlessly fanny around until we give the all away. It’s possession, sure. But it’s directionless, uninformed possession that has no bite or outcome.
I really don’t think he knows how to coach his central midfield - he certainly shows no sign of it - let alone the movement of his forwards or the co-ordination of his centre backs. It makes us so predictable, and blunt, it defies belief.
He needs to get on top of some other approaches - quickly.
This is spot on, and there’s lots to say about it.
Unfortunately, I missed yesterdays game due to work (was out of London), but caught up on it in full last night. Poor, yet again, as we all know.
One of the many things that concerns me about Partridge, is that he’s yet another of the modern day managers who relies too heavily on the now-simplistic full-back “overlap” to create the few chances his teams do.
Its like the only thing he’s learned in football management is the one thing everybody learned years ago: that two full-backs with huge lungs can give you the numerical advantage out wide when you finally break. Every manager with half a brain cell learned this tactic from others years ago, but then went on to develop other approaches, options and looks. Ours tore that page out of the modern coaching manual and left the building. Like a junior doctor running off with the chapter on teeth before pursuing a career in dentistry.
Potter is a one-trick pony. His teams aimlessly fanny around until the opportunity to create that overload presents itself. And often that opportunity doesn’t present itself, so we “just” aimlessly fanny around until we give the all away. It’s possession, sure. But it’s directionless, uninformed possession that has no bite or outcome.
I really don’t think he knows how to coach his central midfield - he certainly shows no sign of it - let alone the movement of his forwards or the co-ordination of his centre backs. It makes us so predictable, and blunt, it defies belief.
He needs to get on top of some other approaches - quickly.
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Having sat in the gods yesterday stacking up the incredible atmosphere at the last home game of the season, it was shockingly clear why we don’t create chances. We don’t break quickly because our only outlet is the wing backs and when they get high up the pitch they have one player in the box, which is Bowen. Fuck knows where Kudus is playing these days but he picked up the ball in terrible positions and we know the rest about his ball retention. Add to that the slowest minefield 3 in the league and there you have it. All on Potter no one else to blame. Add his fucking verbal dioreah at the start and end of every game and you have a pressing state of affairs.
no one at the ground seems to give 2 fucks anyway.
no one at the ground seems to give 2 fucks anyway.