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Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)

Posted: 18 Aug 2024, 01:31
by maverick180
I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season

Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit

We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge

But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 11:38
by THUNDERCLINT
No good reason at all why this cսnt is dtill in a job today.

The apathy from the fans is sickening, how so many of you have been castrated and cucked by David Sullivan in 6 short years is astonishing. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 11:32
by Come On You Irons
Snodders' Beard" wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 10:19 Lopetegui's got the mien of someone who's stumbled into work after a night on the plonk to cope with having just been taken to the cleaners in a messy divorce. He looks/sounds cooked and I doubt he's got the personality to challenge that (who would at his age, apart from Mourinho?)

His father is apparently very ill so I wonder if the weight of personal stresses combining with the professional are too much to bear? Could be why he's seemed so distracted and perplexed for his time here. We might be doing him a kindness letting him go, possibly even offering a face-saving mutual agreement that he steps down to spend more time with sick relatives?

FWIW, I thought Moyes' time had come and we were right to move on. Lopetegui wasn't my first choice though I had reserved optimism he might gradually improve on areas most of us had identified we were struggling in. I was prepared to be underwhelmed but even I'm surprised at how pear-shaped it's going.
 
 
 
 
Haha, great description.

But please, enough with the excuses. His Dad is ill? So what, he is a 58 year old bloke who CHOSE to take a highly pressured, public job in elite top flight management in the most watched, and highest profile league in the world. Don't take the job if you're not mentally up to it. It's not like he's getting paid MILLIONS to get results or anything.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 11:32
by Lee Trundle
I love it when Pickled tries to talk about football.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 11:32
by Sir Alf
Hope u are right H&P but I dont see Sullivan admitting he’s wrong even now. He will want to give Lop more time and cite the 29 chances missed and disregard another defensive horror show. Conscious and unconcious bias from Monsieur Dildo as usual

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 11:31
by Massive Attack
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 11:19 Think that after Monday’s debacle even Sullivan will have to face it and act sooner rather than later. They’ll appoint an interim from inside or the cheapest out-of-contract option with the most modest spending requirements.
Why, what happened on Monday?

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 11:24
by Far Cough UKunt
ag ag ag at Dr Evil

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 11:19
by Hammer and Pickle
Think that after Monday’s debacle even Sullivan will have to face it and act sooner rather than later. They’ll appoint an interim from inside or the cheapest out-of-contract option with the most modest spending requirements.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 11:14
by Mad Dog
This cսnt been sacked yet

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 11:03
by Snodders' Beard
Takashi Miike" wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 10:41 the reasons he won't act now is he doesn't like spending money on managers, be it hiring them or firing them. for some reason he sees that as the least important part of the team, when it's always been the most important. he also hates admitting he's wrong, especially just a few months in to a contract

 
"Sacks you after a year, looks like you've fucked up. Sacks you after a week, looks like he's fucked up."

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 11:00
by Sir Alf
The whole idea of the major shareholder ( Sullivan having 38% makes him the major shareholder ) having power of veto is farcical.  Far too much power in the hands of a man who has zero footballing knowledge or sense.  He prevents anyone doing anything he doesnt agree with but can present it as a board decision

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 10:54
by Massive Attack
Manuel wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 10:49 How can you arrange a board meeting to discuss Lop's performance/future only to conclude that he will stay? It's actually bizarre to the extreme. Surely the only conclusion is that he has to go. If Sullivan doesn't want to pay out, then why is there even a meeting?? 



 
Meanwhile Sullivan during the Board meeting with Steidten and Co..


Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 10:49
by Manuel
How can you arrange a board meeting to discuss Lop's performance/future only to conclude that he will stay? It's actually bizarre to the extreme. Surely the only conclusion is that he has to go. If Sullivan doesn't want to pay out, then why is there even a meeting?? And that's a rhetorical question, please spare me all of your made up wisdom.

Anyways, all we are all doing is just guessing as usual. We don't have a clue what is going on.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 10:41
by Takashi Miike
the reasons he won't act now is he doesn't like spending money on managers, be it hiring them or firing them. for some reason he sees that as the least important part of the team, when it's always been the most important. he also hates admitting he's wrong, especially just a few months in to a contract

the shit that went down (allegedly) when allardyce was here, with him wanting players to sign up with a certain agent. then you have our 'in house' agents like silkman and salthouse bending his ear every window

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 10:23
by Sir Alf
Goose that is how I see it going too. I am an eternal pessimist but nonetheless that is how it will go.  What it really means is that the board can decide to replace the head coach ( because its obvious things aint getting better and will not improve after 5 months) but their vote can be vetoed by Sullivan. Then they will put out the statement as you say.

Depressing in the extreme but our torture is going to last at least another month imo. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 10:19
by Snodders' Beard
Lopetegui's got the mien of someone who's stumbled into work after a night on the plonk to cope with having just been taken to the cleaners in a messy divorce. He looks/sounds cooked and I doubt he's got the personality to challenge that (who would at his age, apart from Mourinho?)

His father is apparently very ill so I wonder if the weight of personal stresses combining with the professional are too much to bear? Could be why he's seemed so distracted and perplexed for his time here. We might be doing him a kindness letting him go, possibly even offering a face-saving mutual agreement that he steps down to spend more time with sick relatives?

FWIW, I thought Moyes' time had come and we were right to move on. Lopetegui wasn't my first choice though I had reserved optimism he might gradually improve on areas most of us had identified we were struggling in. I was prepared to be underwhelmed but even I'm surprised at how pear-shaped it's going.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 10:15
by threesixty
Nutsin wrote: 04 Dec 2024, 15:18 No-one cares what you have to say goose, you’re one of the fuckwits.This one is for all the retired fuckwits.

where were Westham in the table last Christmas Eve?

Ill wait for an honest answer to my question.

Then look at the points tally compared to what we have today and for fun we can also look at it again Christmas Eve for a comparison.

we can also look at the points we had at the end of last season  and compare to what we have at the end of this season too if you like.

We have taken a massive step backward. I can’t make it any easier for you retards. It is obvious that getting rid of Moyes was a mistake. So quick to demonize the man that brought us the only success in 50 years you fucking bunch of thick cunts.
 
 
Only a man that DOESNT watch our games regularly can conclude this. 
This is the type of post I’d expect from a fan of another team that watches us 3 times a year at best and then makes their opinion up from stats. 
utterly clueless. 

and why is Moyes the only manager on earth that can manage West Ham?
we had Amorin on the table. Please don’t tell me that Moyes is a better manager than Amorin? 

remember no one asked for Lopetgui. Sullivan did that not the fans. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 10:14
by Mad Ferret
ragingbull wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 09:49 If Sullivan appoints Cooper that means he has been knee deep inside his Ladyboy that he no longer knows the difference between a dick and a pussy.
Otherwise known as the Manuel Condition.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 09:49
by ragingbull
If Sullivan appoints Cooper that means he has been knee deep inside his Ladyboy that he no longer knows the difference between a dick and a pussy.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 09:14
by threesixty
Nutsin wrote: 04 Dec 2024, 15:04 No his time was not up. Says who you?

Sorry Alf, you are dead wrong.

There is obvious something off at Wedt Ham and it obviously wasn’t Moyes.

stop being stuck on stupid! Didn’t hear you main when we were winning in Europe.

Why are you so stunningly stuck on your obviously wrong opinion? What is it with you? How can you come on here and claim you were right ffs! Where is your proof?

we are worse off for it,  are you mental?
 
 
 
Can you not concede that Moyes cannot be the only manager in the world that can do well
at West Ham? We literally had Amorin on the table. Are you saying that Moyes is a better manager than Ruben Amorin? 

or you particularly love low possession anti football with very expensive players?
is that your thing. ( if it is that would make absolute sense why you’d prefer Moyes as he is the only manager in world football that plays that way). 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 08:37
by goose
John Coffey" wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 08:34 You just know that after their meeting, whenever it is, they will issue a statement to the effect that, as a board they still believe that Lopetegui was the right choice, and are still firmly supporting him. 
Please let this just be me being a fucking pessimist as usual. 
Agreed but it won’t be a club statement, one of their favourite gimps on YouTube will do their work.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 08:34
by John Coffey
You just know that after their meeting, whenever it is, they will issue a statement to the effect that, as a board they still believe that Lopetegui was the right choice, and are still firmly supporting him. 
Please let this just be me being a fucking pessimist as usual. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 08:29
by Massive Attack
Ok, well I thought it was an entertaining and convincing 0-2 away win at Palace. Rattled shots off and kept it out the other end in a fairly end to end game whilst trying to play Football only the 2nd game in to a new season. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 08:28
by Lee Trundle
Manuel wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 08:23
Lee Trundle" wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 08:19
Manuel wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 08:14
Funny enough if there is one positive I'd remember him for is that he cares, that's for sure. He hasn't failed for the want of trying, and fwiw I would wish him all the best, unlike certain others.
That's the type of rubbish that probably got him the job in the first place.

He'll be rewarded handsomely for being shit at his job.  Who cares what he does after.
Sure, don't get me wrong I wouldn't lose a winks sleep if he was hit by a bus tonight, just pointing out that he does care and don't doubt he's been working 24x7 to try to sort it. Just needs putting out of his misery, should find out today.
I was worried you were going soft in your old age!  😉

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 08:25
by stubbo
Massive Attack" wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 08:07 Stubbs

Palace - 1 (frustrating)

How was that frustrating seeing us win 0-2 away in a London Derby? 

*And I think you meant to state 10, not 9 points.
I mean the performance, as someone who was looking for a coherent team performance with signs that the change in approach was starting to get, was frustrating. Was I pleased with the result? Yes. Did I get frustrated watching the match itself? Yes. By your logic every time Moyes won it would be considered entertaining...it wasn't. I mean I enjoyed beating Man Utd, but the performance should have had us 6 nil down by half time.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 08:23
by Manuel
Lee Trundle" wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 08:19
Manuel wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 08:14
Russ of the BML" wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 08:08
 

On a human level though, I worry for Lope. He looks like he has aged about 10 years since the summer. His twitching is bad and he is blinking and stuttering. Genuinely concerned for the bloke. I think he needs to get out before the job kills him. Life's too short to be driven to illness by a job, no matter how well paid it is. 
Funny enough if there is one positive I'd remember him for is that he cares, that's for sure. He hasn't failed for the want of trying, and fwiw I would wish him all the best, unlike certain others.
That's the type of rubbish that probably got him the job in the first place.

He'll be rewarded handsomely for being shit at his job.  Who cares what he does after.
Sure, don't get me wrong I wouldn't lose a winks sleep if he was hit by a bus tonight, just pointing out that he does care and don't doubt he's been working 24x7 to try to sort it. Just needs putting out of his misery, should find out today.