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Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025, 20:45THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025, 12:07 So why isn't a protest being organized for the 1st home game and then every game there after?
Enough is enough.Agree, I'm baffled over the inactive fanbase. Everyone is upset, but not enough apparently.
fans have been bored shitless since the Ruskie-Midget & co. took over, there was a spark of anger a few years ago with the promise of a protest march (whuisa) but, rumor has it that the march was called off because of a brown envelope... is it no surprise that no-one can be arsed to organise a protest?
perhaps someone could survey the new supporters that frequent the Hotpoint... they ripped the soul from the club when we left The Boleyn, it ain't coming back whilst this mob are in charge..
perhaps someone could survey the new supporters that frequent the Hotpoint... they ripped the soul from the club when we left The Boleyn, it ain't coming back whilst this mob are in charge..
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THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025, 12:07 So why isn't a protest being organized for the 1st home game and then every game there after?
Enough is enough.
Agree, I'm baffled over the inactive fanbase. Everyone is upset, but not enough apparently.
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Think the most incredible thing for me is that Sullivan and the late David Gold are/were West Ham fans and yet I haven't seen them do much to prove that. Sullivan especially does the opposite to what the fans want!
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Yeah, Sir Trev would have been fantastic as Director of Football. Don't know if it was ever on the cards though. He retired from the FA when he was 65 and probably didn't want another job. He also said about choosing not to manage the club full time that his wife didn't want him to risk undoing all he achieved as a player. Maybe he would have thought the same about being Director of Football.
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One thing that gets me is it is not just the financial issues where this board have fucked us over. When GSB took over they had the personnel to achieve the World Class Team with a World Class Infrastructure but totally ignored it.
Trevor Brooking has been in or around the club most of the time that GSB have been involved. Sir Trevor did a root and branch review at the FA. In his time the infrastructure, from grass roots to the England Senior Team was overhauled from an old boys network to a professional, objective driven organisation. The England Team are far more consistently competitive now than before and the set up at every level, with pathways to progress, transparent and effective.
OK, the old boys network remains and, where they can, they still behave like twats. So Sir Trevor returned to his first love, West Ham.
So, when the cunts were selling the dream of World Class Team, etc. They could have utilised Sir Trevor in a director of football role and set us up for success for years to come. World Class set up attracting World Class talent with a world class academy to match.
The bloke had the track record to prove it. The money, within that environment, exponentially increases. Instead, the board have lackadaisically rode along with the general growth around TV, merchandise and ticket sales.
The talent was in the building, West Ham through and through, with the passion, football and the business knowledge to take us to that next level. That plus 60k fans gave a high probability of building and sustaining a next level club. The board chose to avoid that opportunity, focussing on short term, unimaginative financial gain. The promises were vacuous and the opportunity to deliver on those promises shunned.
I have no idea where the money has gone other than that it has not been invested wisely, simply spent in an archaic, organisational framework, but I do know that the lack of ambition on the board is ruining the club I love.
Trevor Brooking has been in or around the club most of the time that GSB have been involved. Sir Trevor did a root and branch review at the FA. In his time the infrastructure, from grass roots to the England Senior Team was overhauled from an old boys network to a professional, objective driven organisation. The England Team are far more consistently competitive now than before and the set up at every level, with pathways to progress, transparent and effective.
OK, the old boys network remains and, where they can, they still behave like twats. So Sir Trevor returned to his first love, West Ham.
So, when the cunts were selling the dream of World Class Team, etc. They could have utilised Sir Trevor in a director of football role and set us up for success for years to come. World Class set up attracting World Class talent with a world class academy to match.
The bloke had the track record to prove it. The money, within that environment, exponentially increases. Instead, the board have lackadaisically rode along with the general growth around TV, merchandise and ticket sales.
The talent was in the building, West Ham through and through, with the passion, football and the business knowledge to take us to that next level. That plus 60k fans gave a high probability of building and sustaining a next level club. The board chose to avoid that opportunity, focussing on short term, unimaginative financial gain. The promises were vacuous and the opportunity to deliver on those promises shunned.
I have no idea where the money has gone other than that it has not been invested wisely, simply spent in an archaic, organisational framework, but I do know that the lack of ambition on the board is ruining the club I love.
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Fat, Bald n 50" wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025, 13:07El Scorchio" wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025, 09:31 Yes, you know this that whatever state the club finances are in, Sullivan won’t be a single penny out of pocket and will have probably profited from it. If not now then certainly when he sells up- and greatly so, unless he does manage to drag us down to the championship.Problem with selling up is no serious buyer will give him want he wants for the club as he doesn't own the ground and no guarantee that a new owner can come in and either continue paying the lease whilst a new football stadium is built or can negotiate buying the hotpoint and turning it in to a proper football ground.
Given the state of the nation's finances, getting the cost of the deal for the stadium off the books probably pops up every week in "discussions", but civil servant egos still rule the roost and nothing will/can happen until everyone involved from the government side has moved on.
That being said though, it's highly likely that anyone taking the stadium/ground on will be able to do so free from any of the existing covenants (like preserving the "Olympic legacy" - as an aside how many people do you know (of) who have seen the London Stadium and decided..."Hmmm, Olympics. Big part of my future, that, I'll give it a go?).
This may be exactly why Sullivan is clinging on and not really bothered too much about what happens on the pitch; as prime leaseholder he may well have first dibs at buying the freehold.
That being said though, it's highly likely that anyone taking the stadium/ground on will be able to do so free from any of the existing covenants (like preserving the "Olympic legacy" - as an aside how many people do you know (of) who have seen the London Stadium and decided..."Hmmm, Olympics. Big part of my future, that, I'll give it a go?).
This may be exactly why Sullivan is clinging on and not really bothered too much about what happens on the pitch; as prime leaseholder he may well have first dibs at buying the freehold.
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El Scorchio" wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025, 09:31 Yes, you know this that whatever state the club finances are in, Sullivan won’t be a single penny out of pocket and will have probably profited from it. If not now then certainly when he sells up- and greatly so, unless he does manage to drag us down to the championship.
Problem with selling up is no serious buyer will give him want he wants for the club as he doesn't own the ground and no guarantee that a new owner can come in and either continue paying the lease whilst a new football stadium is built or can negotiate buying the hotpoint and turning it in to a proper football ground.
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Maverick180180 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025, 11:44 I’m not really playing into his hands am I
I use this forum as a way of venting my anger and frustration caused by West Ham related issues, which no matter what the issue, he’s always the puppet master behind it
I very much doubt he comes on here and reads that I hate him and think he’s a cսnt, and even if he does I don’t see how that’s playing into his hands, he actually strikes me as the sort of prick that can’t handle criticism, hence why all the lies and constant spin. He doesn’t have the guts to take the flack he deserves
I’ve refused to spend another penny on West Ham until he’s gone, I made that decision over 2 years ago
so he gets fuck all from me and if more people made that same decision then things would change
Well yeah, if you don't go to games and don't do anything but vent on a forum then you're not playing into his hands because you just don't matter to him at all.
All I'm saying is that if people who set up petitions or other forms of active protest were to focus on trying to get him to stand down from his active role as chairman/CEO rather than sell up altogether then they're much, much more likely to actually achieve something. And that won't be done by just throwing as much shit at him as possible and hoping some of it sticks. It has to be about his competence at running the business. Nothing else.
All I'm saying is that if people who set up petitions or other forms of active protest were to focus on trying to get him to stand down from his active role as chairman/CEO rather than sell up altogether then they're much, much more likely to actually achieve something. And that won't be done by just throwing as much shit at him as possible and hoping some of it sticks. It has to be about his competence at running the business. Nothing else.
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So why isn't a protest being organized for the 1st home game and then every game there after?
Enough is enough.
Enough is enough.
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..."Where has the money gone?"...
Anybody who has been paying attention since Sullivan took over is aware that he always (ALWAYS) borrows against potential future income to fund today's ongoing business expenses.
He could get away with this while TV money and, to a much lesser extent, match-day footfall was growing.
However, being "maxed out" against all our debtors and the economy not growing as expected, he now can't just re-finance the loans; no guarantee of PL football after next season (100% down to him), which means no guarantee of TV money and no guarantee of tourists coming to the London Stadium to "see the stars of the PL in action"/buy lovely, lovely half-and-half scarves, over-priced burgers & bland-flavour popcorn.
None of this is surprising, even for a layman, so a "successful businessman" would have already mitigated for such a possibility - especially after COVID and the ongoing war in The Ukraine.
We, once again, had the chance to push on after a relative success. Maybe we couldn't actually afford to as, back even then, our borrowing accounts were already maxed out by Sullivan's business management acumen. Nobody except "payday lenders" would touch us, and even they were reluctant.
And this is not the first time loan/cash-flow issues with the club have raised their ugly head - even on this site.
It could be argued that in continuously running a professional football club in such a way it clearly marks him out as not "a fit and proper person" to hold such a position.
Anybody who has been paying attention since Sullivan took over is aware that he always (ALWAYS) borrows against potential future income to fund today's ongoing business expenses.
He could get away with this while TV money and, to a much lesser extent, match-day footfall was growing.
However, being "maxed out" against all our debtors and the economy not growing as expected, he now can't just re-finance the loans; no guarantee of PL football after next season (100% down to him), which means no guarantee of TV money and no guarantee of tourists coming to the London Stadium to "see the stars of the PL in action"/buy lovely, lovely half-and-half scarves, over-priced burgers & bland-flavour popcorn.
None of this is surprising, even for a layman, so a "successful businessman" would have already mitigated for such a possibility - especially after COVID and the ongoing war in The Ukraine.
We, once again, had the chance to push on after a relative success. Maybe we couldn't actually afford to as, back even then, our borrowing accounts were already maxed out by Sullivan's business management acumen. Nobody except "payday lenders" would touch us, and even they were reluctant.
And this is not the first time loan/cash-flow issues with the club have raised their ugly head - even on this site.
It could be argued that in continuously running a professional football club in such a way it clearly marks him out as not "a fit and proper person" to hold such a position.
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Starting to agree with others now. It really looks like the only proper way to resolve this mess is for Sullivan to die. I don't care how that makes me look. I wouldn't cheer at the news but, by god, I'd be relieved so we can move on from this blood sucking little toxic ponce.
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I’m not really playing into his hands am I
I use this forum as a way of venting my anger and frustration caused by West Ham related issues, which no matter what the issue, he’s always the puppet master behind it
I very much doubt he comes on here and reads that I hate him and think he’s a cսnt, and even if he does I don’t see how that’s playing into his hands, he actually strikes me as the sort of prick that can’t handle criticism, hence why all the lies and constant spin. He doesn’t have the guts to take the flack he deserves
I’ve refused to spend another penny on West Ham until he’s gone, I made that decision over 2 years ago
so he gets fuck all from me and if more people made that same decision then things would change
I use this forum as a way of venting my anger and frustration caused by West Ham related issues, which no matter what the issue, he’s always the puppet master behind it
I very much doubt he comes on here and reads that I hate him and think he’s a cսnt, and even if he does I don’t see how that’s playing into his hands, he actually strikes me as the sort of prick that can’t handle criticism, hence why all the lies and constant spin. He doesn’t have the guts to take the flack he deserves
I’ve refused to spend another penny on West Ham until he’s gone, I made that decision over 2 years ago
so he gets fuck all from me and if more people made that same decision then things would change
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Maverick, what you don't get is that people like you play into his hands. It's so easy for him to laugh off unproved allegations and hate filled invective. If everyone focused on the most pressing issue - his incompetence as a chief executive - then he might have to take a back seat, which is the only thing that would help the club in the short term. He won't sell up just because people post up some rumours or opinions about him on a forum. He's probably more likely to want to sell if he's not so involved in the running of the club.
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Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025, 11:08a) If you think what I wrote is in any way shape or form sticking up for Sullivan then you're a proper fucking idiot.
b) Never watched Star Trek in my life. The username is based on poncey French film director Jean-Luc Godard (who I don't like either).
To write off the idea that he makes dodgy money out of West Ham is massively sticking up for him
he’s a seedy, grubby little cսnt with some serious allegations made about his conduct in the porn world, the very idea that he’s some sort of straight as a die character is what’s more than likely nonsense
I despise the bloke and I wish him every possible harm that could befall him, and I’m not gonna be told by someone to stop wasting my time hating him because that’s not possible, he’s going out of his way to destroy something that I love
there will never come a time when I don’t hate the bloke
he’s a seedy, grubby little cսnt with some serious allegations made about his conduct in the porn world, the very idea that he’s some sort of straight as a die character is what’s more than likely nonsense
I despise the bloke and I wish him every possible harm that could befall him, and I’m not gonna be told by someone to stop wasting my time hating him because that’s not possible, he’s going out of his way to destroy something that I love
there will never come a time when I don’t hate the bloke
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a) If you think what I wrote is in any way shape or form sticking up for Sullivan then you're a proper fucking idiot.
b) Never watched Star Trek in my life. The username is based on poncey French film director Jean-Luc Godard (who I don't like either).
b) Never watched Star Trek in my life. The username is based on poncey French film director Jean-Luc Godard (who I don't like either).
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Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025, 10:23 People need to stop all the nonsense about back handers and funnelling money back to himself. Apart from the interest on the loans he and Gold made to the club I doubt he's taken much at all. As with his real estate business he knows that the money comes when you sell up and he doesn't need to sell until he gets a great offer. He's not going to sell up on the cheap just because some numpties start up a petition.
NOBODY is going to force him out of his shares in the club except by stumping up heaps of cash. What might be possible, and is actually vital for the club, is that he is forced out of his hands on role in the running of the club. He needs to hand over the reins to an experienced director of football (not an ambitious head scout like Steidten, who was given no power anyway). Long term decisions about who to hire as manager and which players to buy should not be in the hands of someone who has proven himself utterly incompetent time and time again.
So slag him off as much as you want, but focus on the things that matter and that might be achievable, not a load of pointless hate mongering and wishful thinking that a sugar daddy is going to come along and make everything all right.
Trust a Star Trek nerd to stick up for Sullivan
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Very few fanbases turn up in their numbers the way we do even when we get treated to this nonsense so often. Can only think of the geordies during Mike Ashley era but they're a one club city. The place is going to be seriously toxic if we get off to a bad start but looking at the fixtures, it's hard to see us picking up many points. We've had so many opportunities to kick on and the mismanagement/shit show transfer windows has us looking at the likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Brentford and Forest thinking how far ahead of us they are. Need to seriously get this cretin out of our club before it's too late
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People need to stop all the nonsense about back handers and funnelling money back to himself. Apart from the interest on the loans he and Gold made to the club I doubt he's taken much at all. As with his real estate business he knows that the money comes when you sell up and he doesn't need to sell until he gets a great offer. He's not going to sell up on the cheap just because some numpties start up a petition.
NOBODY is going to force him out of his shares in the club except by stumping up heaps of cash. What might be possible, and is actually vital for the club, is that he is forced out of his hands on role in the running of the club. He needs to hand over the reins to an experienced director of football (not an ambitious head scout like Steidten, who was given no power anyway). Long term decisions about who to hire as manager and which players to buy should not be in the hands of someone who has proven himself utterly incompetent time and time again.
So slag him off as much as you want, but focus on the things that matter and that might be achievable, not a load of pointless hate mongering and wishful thinking that a sugar daddy is going to come along and make everything all right.
NOBODY is going to force him out of his shares in the club except by stumping up heaps of cash. What might be possible, and is actually vital for the club, is that he is forced out of his hands on role in the running of the club. He needs to hand over the reins to an experienced director of football (not an ambitious head scout like Steidten, who was given no power anyway). Long term decisions about who to hire as manager and which players to buy should not be in the hands of someone who has proven himself utterly incompetent time and time again.
So slag him off as much as you want, but focus on the things that matter and that might be achievable, not a load of pointless hate mongering and wishful thinking that a sugar daddy is going to come along and make everything all right.
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Yes, you know this that whatever state the club finances are in, Sullivan won’t be a single penny out of pocket and will have probably profited from it. If not now then certainly when he sells up- and greatly so, unless he does manage to drag us down to the championship.
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ATHammer wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025, 09:25 The Promise:
"World Class Team in a World Class Stadium with World Class Transport links."
The Reality:
"World Class Lies delivering a World Class Mess from a third rate Stadium"
And there is more:
"This is our second longest run in the Premier League".
But with Ticket, Merchandise and TV revenue increasing exponentially over this boards tenure coupled with the lowest running costs in the Premier League:
"We have to sell before we buy."
Why?
Where has the money gone?
On the Ground? No.
On the Training Facilities? No.
On the Academy? No.
On the Team? No, we are the 8th biggest spenders so commensurate with the size of club.
So where is the money? Why are we skint?
This board are an absolute disgrace, wrecking the club with deceit and dishonesty. They are World class arseholes.
I suspect the money is in Sullivan’s back pocket through dodgy backhanders from his favourite agents