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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
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- One Sunny Day
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We're back into tin foil hat territory again, I see. I notice no one actually read the report, that actually happened, but the Conservative government decided to completely ignore but are just digging around to get a quote from one person that might agree with part of their conspiracy theory.
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The liberal elements in the Tory party were also suppressing the reports of the grooming gangs in Rotherham? Really? How did they wield so much influence? Whose accusations were they afraid of? What on Earth are you on about?
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Corbyn was the least of their worries. Like the rest of the liberal elite class these people are governed by cowardice and a desperate need to virtue signal at any given opportunity. They are fucking filth,each and every one of them,regardless of which organisation they work for or which political party they represent.
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The facts on the grooming gangs’ activity were no secret - what was stopping the government in London from making sure the grooming gangs were dealt with as promptly as possible? It surely couldn’t have been a fear of being called racist by the mighty Jeremy Corbyn, could it?
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It really is that simple.
If there were adequate funds and manpower available for authorities to be in possession of the information they had then there can be no other reason.
And let's have this right. Theses gangs are not made up of Asians from China, Singapore Vietnam etc,they predominantly consist of Pakistani men.
Turn this on its head. If there were gangs of working class white British men who had been known to race 1000's of Muslim girls over a 20 year period , the whole thing would have been handled very differently.
If there were adequate funds and manpower available for authorities to be in possession of the information they had then there can be no other reason.
And let's have this right. Theses gangs are not made up of Asians from China, Singapore Vietnam etc,they predominantly consist of Pakistani men.
Turn this on its head. If there were gangs of working class white British men who had been known to race 1000's of Muslim girls over a 20 year period , the whole thing would have been handled very differently.
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If there were people in authority who failed to act or repressed evidence on the grooming gangs out of a sense it would be racist to take action, then they were simply and horribly wrong.
But it’s not that simple, is it.
But it’s not that simple, is it.
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"what was stopping the government from making sure it was published and providing the necessary resources both material and legal to deal with the grooming gangs as promptly as possible?"
Very simple answer, one word covers it.
COWARDICE.
Enough high level people knew enough to expose the scandal but were to scared to do so.
So to clarify, being overstretched and under funded had fuck all to do with any of it.
Very simple answer, one word covers it.
COWARDICE.
Enough high level people knew enough to expose the scandal but were to scared to do so.
So to clarify, being overstretched and under funded had fuck all to do with any of it.
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A damning report by the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) found child sexual exploitation continues in all parts of England and Wales, a decade after it became a national scandal.
The report said children were being abused “in the most degrading and destructive ways” amid “extensive failures by local authorities and police forces”.John O’Brien, secretary to the inquiry, called for a “cultural change” to ensure that child sexual exploitation can be understood and prevented.
“We need to break the culture where people are worried that they might be accused of being racist just because they record factual information,” he told The Independent.
Official reports into abuse by grooming gangs have identified racism fears as an issue for almost a decade, but Mr O’Brien said cases seen for IICSA’s latest report were “very recent indeed”.
It reported that the fear of being seen as racist may have hindered the detection of and intervention in abuse and said it was “essential” for professionals to raise concerns freely.
A Home Office spokesperson, said: “Victims of sickening grooming gangs must never be let down in the name of political correctness, and the police must use all of the powers available to them to investigate reports of child sexual abuse.
The report said children were being abused “in the most degrading and destructive ways” amid “extensive failures by local authorities and police forces”.John O’Brien, secretary to the inquiry, called for a “cultural change” to ensure that child sexual exploitation can be understood and prevented.
“We need to break the culture where people are worried that they might be accused of being racist just because they record factual information,” he told The Independent.
Official reports into abuse by grooming gangs have identified racism fears as an issue for almost a decade, but Mr O’Brien said cases seen for IICSA’s latest report were “very recent indeed”.
It reported that the fear of being seen as racist may have hindered the detection of and intervention in abuse and said it was “essential” for professionals to raise concerns freely.
A Home Office spokesperson, said: “Victims of sickening grooming gangs must never be let down in the name of political correctness, and the police must use all of the powers available to them to investigate reports of child sexual abuse.
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Of course it was wrong to suppress that report. However, I’d like to know what steps were taken to publish it despite the local authority and police who seem to have acted in collusion on the assumption they would be thrown under the bus if it saw the light of day. The report was there - what was stopping the government from making sure it was published and providing the necessary resources both material and legal to deal with the grooming gangs as promptly as possible?
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Plenty of evidence and testament out there which says some police authorities and councils KNEW exactly what was going on buyt were to concerned by potential accusations of being racist to voice their findings.
Overstretched and under funded have fuck all to do with it,cowardice and self preservation are the major causes here.
And as for Yaxley Lennon, he called all this out years ago, showing the kind of courage and honesty that those in power can only dream of. Wasn't wrong was he.
Overstretched and under funded have fuck all to do with it,cowardice and self preservation are the major causes here.
And as for Yaxley Lennon, he called all this out years ago, showing the kind of courage and honesty that those in power can only dream of. Wasn't wrong was he.
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“Overstretched and under funded have fuck all to do with it,cowardice and self preservation are the major causes here.”
Well, that’s just your opinion and you have provided no evidence to support it. On the other hand, the overstretched and underfunded corner has the entire fucking history of the last government’s terms in office since 2010.
Well, that’s just your opinion and you have provided no evidence to support it. On the other hand, the overstretched and underfunded corner has the entire fucking history of the last government’s terms in office since 2010.
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Plenty of evidence and testament out there which says some police authorities and councils KNEW exactly what was going on buyt were to concerned by potential accusations of being racist to voice their findings.
Overstretched and under funded have fuck all to do with it,cowardice and self preservation are the major causes here.
And as for Yaxley Lennon, he called all this out years ago, showing the kind of courage and honesty that those in power can only dream of. Wasn't wrong was he.
Overstretched and under funded have fuck all to do with it,cowardice and self preservation are the major causes here.
And as for Yaxley Lennon, he called all this out years ago, showing the kind of courage and honesty that those in power can only dream of. Wasn't wrong was he.
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Cabbige Savage" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 18:17One Sunny Day" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 17:41 The lack of critical thinking ability, from so called adults, on this thread, is staggering to say the least. Embarrassing how some can't even cope with not call others a paedo apologist with no evidence, especially when they are cheerleading other rapey character in politics..solidarity with apolojists comrade
GOOD TIMES
This is a politics thread.
What have you got to say?
What have you got to say?
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One Sunny Day" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 17:41 The lack of critical thinking ability, from so called adults, on this thread, is staggering to say the least. Embarrassing how some can't even cope with not call others a paedo apologist with no evidence, especially when they are cheerleading other rapey character in politics..
GOOD TIMES
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Of course the real nature of Musk’s beef is the Online Safety Act that is just about to come into force. It is all about protecting children and the less resilient among us from the kind of content he makes money on by making internet providers responsible for what they carry.
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 17:59One Sunny Day" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 17:41 The lack of critical thinking ability, from so called adults, on this thread, is staggering to say the least. Embarrassing how some can't even cope with not call others a paedo apologist with no evidence, especially when they are cheerleading other rapey character in politics..The groomers ran a transactional network under the noses of the stretched police and underfunded local authorities. Now I think that’s disgusting and very distressing but Trump, Musk and their like will of course try to take full political advantage of it by building the Reform vote. I very much hope Starmer stands firm unlike Teresa May, who actually held hands with the violet clown.
Stands firm to people wanting a public enquiry about the sexual abuse of 1000’s of young girls?
What a surprise you’re not in favour of this.
What a surprise you’re not in favour of this.
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One Sunny Day" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 17:41 The lack of critical thinking ability, from so called adults, on this thread, is staggering to say the least. Embarrassing how some can't even cope with not call others a paedo apologist with no evidence, especially when they are cheerleading other rapey character in politics..
The groomers ran a transactional network under the noses of the stretched police and underfunded local authorities. Now I think that’s disgusting and very distressing but Trump, Musk and their like will of course try to take full political advantage of it by building the Reform vote. I very much hope Starmer stands firm unlike Teresa May, who actually held hands with the violet clown.
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One Sunny Day" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 17:41 The lack of critical thinking ability, from so called adults, on this thread, is staggering to say the least. Embarrassing how some can't even cope with not call others a paedo apologist with no evidence, especially when they are cheerleading other rapey character in politics..
Apart from all the evidence posted up
you mean?
you mean?
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The lack of critical thinking ability, from so called adults, on this thread, is staggering to say the least. Embarrassing how some can't even cope with not call others a paedo apologist with no evidence, especially when they are cheerleading other rapey character in politics..
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Seems to be a occurrence of similarities happening with the DPP, grooming gangs, Saville and post office scandal, wonder who was running the place at the time?
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you say "the overstretched police "
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