Barty 6:15 Fri Apr 12
Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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The time has come :)
So what do you think has got to be done in the summer regarding ins and outs?
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Alan
2:42 Tue Jul 23
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Inside Futbol
West Ham Get Hammers Stars To Tilt Man Utd Target To London Stadium
West Ham United stars Mohammed Kudus and Edson Alvarez have spoken to Manchester United target Noussair Mazraoui to convince him to consider a move to the London Stadium this summer, according to ExWHUemployee.
Bayern Munich are prepared to listen to offers for Mazraoui, who has attracted interest from the Premier League.
Manchester United and West Ham have put in enquiries as they explore the possibility of signing the right-back from the German giants this summer.
Mazraoui is keen on a transfer to the Premier League and West Ham have deployed two of their players to try and sell a move to the London Stadium.
It has been claimed that Kudus and Alvarez have had conversations with the Bayern Munich star to convince him to consider a move to West Ham.
The West Ham duo are former Ajax team-mates of Mazraoui and still share a close relationship with him
Manchester United are also pushing to sign him by leveraging his relationship with his former Ajax boss Erik ten Hag.
The Premier League giants are reportedly trying to move on Aaron Wan-Bissaka to make space for the pursuit of Mazraoui.
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Fauxstralian
2:21 Tue Jul 23
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Not sure anything below Champions league is a major barrier in attracting players
Would be great if things were moving quicker but will judge when the window closes
I did hear that he was working on transferring Come On You Irons to either a club in Ukraine or Gaza FC
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Sir Alf
2:13 Tue Jul 23
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Im hoping youre correct Stubbo as that is at least an understandable explanation. I might not agree ( yet ;-) ) with COYI’s thoughts but he’s not entirely incorrect in that, to date, Steidten this window has got the Brazilian in. Killman even Moyes and co could have got you wouod have thought as arguably we overpaid by £10million.
Things can change quickly and there are still a few weeks lett but currently it looks like we will be starting the season with a makeshift squad?
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Hello Mrs. Jones
2:01 Tue Jul 23
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Not being in Europe next season makes Steidten's job much harder. But I have faith in him and am sure we'll fill in the gaps before too long.
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Come On You Irons
1:58 Tue Jul 23
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For me Steidten is turning out to be yet another fraud milking the club for millions and delivering very little.
We no longer have Moyes to blame for the slow progress in the transfer market. Stiedten came in was was supposed to be some transfer guru and all we have signed is an 18 year old Brazilian kid and paid well over the odds for an uncapped English defender from a fellow Premier League club.
Pathetic. Relegation battle next season, nailed on.
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Stubbo
1:48 Tue Jul 23
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Latest suggestion is given the lack of Paqueta money and the volume of players we need, we have a 'fixed per position' budget (so not a tiny budget overall, just restricted amount per position) and we're somewhat playing hardball over what we consider high valuations.
To me that seems pretty reasonable. KWP and arguably Wan Bissaka, and arguably Duran are being over priced, so if we move on to other non-PL based players considered better value, it either forces Villa/Southampton/Man Utd to drop their prices, or we go for the other players.
Just makes the whole thing a bit drawn out. Sounds like Steidten negotiates the fee, and then Sullivan signs off...but given Steidten knows the budget by position he can handle most of the negotiation.
Frustrating as on-lookers, but seems a reasonable approach.
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Lee Trundle
1:41 Tue Jul 23
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Russ of the BML 1:00 Tue Jul 23
"I think we will get there. Eventually. And this isn't knicker wetting or slagging the club. Just an observation. I just feel that again the club need to be more decisive and get things done. Appreciate its a minefield though."
Yeah, that's put it in better words how I feel also. I find it difficult to criticise the club on here at the moment, as I guess it's still Lopetegui's honeymoon period and everyone is happy and everything, and people have this bizarre idea I hate Lopetegui because I wasn't completely convinced he was the best appointment (that doesn't mean I'm against his appointment).
Sir Alf - what I find weird about solely blaming Sullivan, is that we went out and overspent (in my eyes) on a mid table centre back pretty easily, so why would he hold up similar transfers?
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Sir Alf
1:14 Tue Jul 23
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What none of us know is the exact process and roles involved with the bidding and deal making? Steidten and team identify who to bid on but who makes the first bid, who is talking to agents and club reps. Seems Steidten and Loppy talk to the player. Then who revires and negotiates terms, fee structures, payment schedules, agent fees and the “add ons”.
Depending on the little Stalin wannabe’s involvement we can perhaps see why our transfer business is the most protracted, frustrating and often misleading of all clubs? Our little Russian egomaniac has a lifetime history of “dirty dealing” and dishonesty.
We also have a net spend of what £25 million this window? Kehrer, Benrahma, Downes and perhaps even Fornals out since the last window and Aguerd next. Kilman and the Brazilian in for 65mill? Aguerd coming in will bring perhaps £20 mill?
We break even on fees and may actually be in the black on wages.
That leaves £50 million to spend on a striker, RB, wide left and central midfielder? Im quoting this as it was mentioned as the starting budget before sales by Ex / Whetstone?
Im not the greatest with maths but im not seeing how we can afford all these players especially if they need to be of a certain quality?
Is the 50 million just a red herring? Was the Paqueta sale central to plans?
Can see us being disappointed if above budget rumours have any truth to them.
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Russ of the BML
1:00 Tue Jul 23
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The window started well, but has slowly ground to a halt. I am sure there are lots of irons on the fire in the background and people are working hard. But it does seem again that our business is a bit cumbersome and lacks a decisive edge.
The problem with it all taking so long is that we are now being linked with so many players. SSN did a whole piece on West Ham today with all the links / rumours and it was like a roll call of anyone and everyone almost. Just seems whoever manager we have and whoever Sporting Director we have, it just feels the same. The common denominator is the dwarf.
RB for me was key. I am sure we will get sorted. But the AWB and KWP links have been trundling on too long now. Just need to get this sorted. Also, still no striker. Duran and El-Nesyri and Sorloth. Then this week we are linked with Yilmaz who was in London for talks but apparently Liverpool make Galatasary a £25m bid and his attention is diverted.
I think we will get there. Eventually. And this isn't knicker wetting or slagging the club. Just an observation. I just feel that again the club need to be more decisive and get things done. Appreciate its a minefield though.
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LJC
12:41 Tue Jul 23
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Oh and I think we will get a new CB once we offload one or both of the backups.
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LJC
12:39 Tue Jul 23
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Trundle I can’t disagree with any of that. You want your new players in so you can work with them. I’m guessing the international players are not in the USA but even if they are then he should be implementing his new system from day 1 and then it’s less work as and when the new players start trickling in.
For what it’s worth I reckon we will probably see 3 in by the end of this week/early next with them being AWB, Summerville/Soule/Silva (Wesley) and Duran. There is no way the Duran deal is being held up because they don’t want him to play against them.
I also reckon we will see a lot more of the youths than we are used too and people are not counting these in their proposed squads for next season.
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Lee Trundle
12:26 Tue Jul 23
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You speak to Chelsea fans and they reckon he was one of their best defender towards the end of last season.
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dealcanvey
12:24 Tue Jul 23
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Chalobah the Chelsea CB has not gone on their tour.
Young. HG. We could do alot worse.
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Vexed
12:11 Tue Jul 23
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I think the striker is Duran and it's as good as done. I'd be avoiding the Moroccan right back like the plague, north Africans are just too flakey. That will be KWP or AWB but we seem to have made a large error in our strategy by selling Downes to Southampton before having a deal in place for KWP. Now they're trying to pull our pants down for 20m. Seems like we have irons in the fire for left wing, Zaha, Jota etc. Centre back seems to be a problem area, missed out on a few good ones and the ones we want are expensive and don't want to come!
I aint worried, just pleased to have a new manager and better football next season.
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Fauxstralian
12:00 Tue Jul 23
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This right back situation is hopefully coming to a head after dragging
Man U & us both interested in the Moroccan from Bayern.
If he picks them then surely they will be keener to get AWB out the door to us
Striker situation seems to be going round in circles
Pick one and pay. If its too difficult move onto the next
I suspect if Villa DO want to get rid of Duran they will also have in mind we play them on the opening day so will drag it beyond then
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Lee Trundle
11:51 Tue Jul 23
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*they're not here now
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Lee Trundle
11:50 Tue Jul 23
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LJC 11:46 Tue Jul 23
Successful in terms of players we've bought in (we both hope), but it might not be successful in terms of how our season plays out if their not here now.
Surely if we changing a lot of the squad up, and changing the style of football we play, you want as many players in as soon as possible?
We're dragging our feet now.
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Lee Trundle
11:48 Tue Jul 23
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I still can't get my head around that we haven't bought a striker yet.
That should have been the first player through the door the first day the window opened considering how long we've needed one.
Unless the idea is to go with Antonio and Ings next season (which on paper looks like madness)?
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LJC
11:46 Tue Jul 23
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Obviously it has slowed right down but I still think it will be a successful window once it shuts… just that some we thought would be easy have hit the skids and so looking at alternatives.
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onsideman
11:35 Tue Jul 23
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Yeah, it's nonsense
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Lee Trundle
11:34 Tue Jul 23
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If you look at our transfer business as of 8am today, then it's been pretty shit considering the players we've needed to bring in.
There's still plenty of time before the window closes, of course, but not so much time if you want players bedded in for the start of the season.
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