Barty 6:15 Fri Apr 12
Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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The time has come :)
So what do you think has got to be done in the summer regarding ins and outs?
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Fauxstralian
7:36 Tue Jul 9
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Will say again ... Duran is 20
How old was he when he was scoring goals at these various other clubs?
You are paying for potential and wouldnt be too concerned with what he was doing at 17 or thereabouts
Understand we had a deal with Southampton for Ings at £6m (thats THEM paying us!) but he turned it down
Personally I think we move Ings AND Antonio or if we are keeping Antonio we need a higher level of main striker ... ideally a Toney or Solanke type
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Nagel
7:28 Tue Jul 9
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Manuel, yeah, obviously he'd be Antonio's replacement. I was just trying to say that the kid can shoot, unlike Antonio.
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Manuel
7:20 Tue Jul 9
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LT - Apparently Ings is refusing to go to Saints after we accepted 6 mil for him, tbf it's his right if he doesn't want to go there, but not a good situation and also no doubt complicates the Downes/Walker Peters situation further.
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Nagel
7:19 Tue Jul 9
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Calm down Russ. Can't see why you're getting so defensive about it. You raised a simple question and I gave a simple answer by bringing up a comparison with Cole Palmer.
Them stats you're putting up about his goal scoring are a bit out of context, seeing as he started so few games. Even if it was more accurate, very few strikers are banging them in as teenagers. It took Shearer 100 games to hit 25 goals and he was playing 90 mins in most of them.
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Manuel
7:14 Tue Jul 9
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Nags - Spin it how you want but clearly he will be Antonio's replacement. I'm reading he leads the line well, bit of a beast, pacey and with a good scoring average? 35 mil sounds like a snip in that case.
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Lee Trundle
7:09 Tue Jul 9
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I'll tell you who's he's not at all like.
Ings.
Let's hope the club manage to somehow offload him if we're going for a big guy up top.
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Russ of the BML
7:09 Tue Jul 9
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Nagel 5:16 Tue Jul 9
No. I don't remember actually commenting about Cole Palmer. So you can presume all you like.
I am normally very positive about most transfers. I am not actually being negative about this one. Just seems a very high sum for a kid who hardly played last season.
So, if you want to dig down, firstly he has had 109 professional games, not the 130 you mentioned. He scored 9 goals in two seasons for Envigado (don't know if that's a decent standard) and then 8 goals in one season for Chicago Fire (which we know is Championship standard). Does that make him established and experienced enough for the PL? Unai Emery didn't think so. But if you do then I will take your word of Unai Emery's.
And so add his 5 goals for Villa, he has scored 22 in 109 which means he scores a goal every 5 games. May be again why he didn't play much for Villa last season. And they want £35m for him.
And I did ask if he was any good. So I don't see why you need to respond in such a cuntish and flippant way.
But as you seem to rate him more than Unai Emery i will go with your wisdom. I am not slating the kid and don't mean to sound negative. Just raised a simple question that it seems alot of money for a player that isn't established in the PL and only has experience in sub standard leagues.
is that ok?
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Stowie.40
7:08 Tue Jul 9
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I think he’ll be a good signing, when I’ve seen him he has caused sides problems. Thing is with the attitude claim he comes here he has a ridiculous high chance of being out main man up top so he won’t have much to moan about.
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Nagel
7:06 Tue Jul 9
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From what I've seen he's not much like Antonio at all. His shooting is probably his best quality. Hard to say how prolific he'd be if he started regularly. Last season in the PL he scored 5 goals in 462 mins, which works out at about a goal a game, and 3 of those goals were against Man City & Liverpool. Looks to me like he could score a lot if given the right service.
His "notorious" attitude problems seem to be mainly that he got stroppy on social media about not being played enough.
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fraser
6:54 Tue Jul 9
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900 minutes odd for Villa last season and 7 goals, that's roughly a goal every 1.5 games.. It's not bad at all
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Manuel
6:46 Tue Jul 9
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Interesting development, can't say I noticed him at Villa, so an Antonio replacement, i.e a battering ram, leading the line type, not important if he's not prolific?
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Eerie Descent
6:36 Tue Jul 9
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Jaan Kenbrovin 6:14 Tue Jul 9
What happens if you start to enjoy the new season?
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Lee Trundle
6:23 Tue Jul 9
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Eh? Why's that?
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claypole
6:22 Tue Jul 9
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Lee Trundle 4:15 Tue Jul 9
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That sort of post is better suited to kumb
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fraser
6:21 Tue Jul 9
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Maybe Emery has a touch of the Moyes and just doesn't like him and he wants playing time.
I'm sure I heard or read somewhere that he was bought for him and not by him and that even when he's looked good he's taken him off.
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Jaan Kenbrovin
6:14 Tue Jul 9
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Obviously Duran has good potential, but he is Notorious for his terrible attitude, which is why Emery is desperate to cash in on him.
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Sir Alf
6:10 Tue Jul 9
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Using the tried, tested and proven player recruitment we all tend to use ( sitting on sofa blowing off and watching games or highlights on the telly), this Duran fella definitely has potential and is a real handful for defenders.
Steidten and team will probably use data analysis ( KPIs ) and squalid professional scouting and recruitment techniques but in spite of that they can rest assured my casual, armchair analysis is backing them on this one. I wasnt even pissed one time I saw him come on for Villa !!! The Sir Alf stamp of approval. A guarantee, 100% mitigation of risk
*** taps nose ***
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Fauxstralian
5:57 Tue Jul 9
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He is only 20
Looked lively when he came on and scored twice in the 3-3 v Liverpool though one was a complete fluke
Would be more worried that his parents couldnt spell John
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RBshorty
5:17 Tue Jul 9
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Well it's 5 more than Haller and Scamacca had scored when they rocked up.? And our success rate at forwards before Steidtan was called in has been phenomenal.!
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Nagel
5:16 Tue Jul 9
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"But he is hardly established. 5 Premier league goals. For that money can we not get someone more experienced with a bit more pedigree."
Presumably you were one of the people saying the same thing when we were offering £40m+ for Cole Palmer last summer? Duran is a lot more established then he was, and at a younger age. 10 international caps, 130 top flight games (in Colombia, USA and England). That's a fair bit of experience for a 20 year old.
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Stubbo
4:44 Tue Jul 9
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Given he didn't play many minutes for Villa last season (~510) his highlights real looks like he does plenty of good things:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UFtOHCJX0I&ab_channel=ultrasfctvPremium
Fast, strong, decent skill, cannon of a shot and good on the volley.
It's probably the going rate for highly rated potential these days.
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