Phall Throw 1:23 Tue Jun 11
Euro 2024 - Inc Southgate resignation
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We seem to have an England v Bosnia thread but not an actual Euro 2024 thread so here it is
So, do we realistically think England can win it? On paper we obviously have a very talented squad but I just don't see us going all the way. For me it's "same old" when it comes to England. Breeze the group, favourable draw in last 16 and win then up against far superior opposition in the QFs and out. At best I can see us at the SF stage before being beaten again.
Winners for me:
France, Portugal, Spain
Dark horses:
Germany - even though it's a home tournament they've been in a consolidation period, could go close
Biggest flops:
Scotland - no goals scored
Top goalscorer:
Mbappe
I'm just hoping it's a decent tournament with plenty of decent games that's not ruined by VAR (are they using it?)
consolidation period but could go close
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Manuel
6:26 Sat Jul 20
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ED - Maybe some of our players are just overrated, Rice is no Kante, Starboy is no Figo, Foden is no Zidane, Kane is no Van Basten, Bellingham is no Gascoigne, etc, but what I do find rather strange about this tournament was that we went backwards from previous tournaments, now I'm not saying we were that amazing before but in the last WC and Euro's we we played some decent stuff, by memory anyway..
All I will say is IMO this shitfest wasn't all down to Southgate, and that we won't be winning fuck all when the new bloke comes in, so let's see whose fault that is.
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Eerie Descent
3:06 Sat Jul 20
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Manuel 5:38 Fri Jul 19
Name me anyone from our midfield or forwards who weren't mostly shit? Is it all their faults?
And Foden was the only one out of them that was mostly not played in his natural position, in fact, out of all of them, playing Foden on the left wing is the most unsuited any of them could be to a postion.
Kane played up front, was DOG shit, 'Starboy' played in his favoured position practically the whole tournament and was mostly shit, Bellingham played where he wanted and was mostly shit, Rice was shit.
Foden is the only one who you can have an excuse for for fuck sake, but he's easy for the press and pundits to go after, and we all know why that is...
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wd40
12:40 Sat Jul 20
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what about Moyes ?
he does win things.............. like cups .
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Fauxstralian
1:30 Fri Jul 19
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Have said before they should be obliged to have a national as manager
As the likes of Spain, Germany, Italy etc always have as far as I recall
Having a German or Argentinian in charge is almost as embarrassing has having a Kiwi or Aussie in charge of English cricket teams
No standout candidates but suspect Potter will get it after they try and fail to attract Howe
Have said before I would prefer Howe only to see Shearer be forced to explain why Moyes or Southgate arent IDEAL for Newcastle
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Fauxstralian
1:25 Fri Jul 19
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Foden is talented but playing in a Man City team that spends 80% of the match in the attacking third with minimal defensive responsibilities helps
More so with everyone shitting themselves marking Haaland and having the likes of DeBruyne & B Silva to take the pressure off
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only1billybonds
1:12 Fri Jul 19
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Excellent ( but long) article on Southgate ' politicising the England job in Spiked.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/07/16/gareth-southgates-culture-war/
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Nutsin
5:58 Fri Jul 19
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I have been saying the same thing about Foden for a while, I don’t get all the hype, I am not impressed.
I agree about the national team coach too. The coach should English.
Howe is the obvious choice.
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Manuel
5:38 Fri Jul 19
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Some are still making excuses for Foden? Turn it in ffs, 7 games he played and he was fucking shit apart from on ehalf against the Dutch. Stop blaming the coach for everything. Was it also Southgate's fault when we went backwards from the throw in late against Spain?
We ain't winning fuck all regardless of who the new coach is.
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Too Much Too Young
10:40 Thu Jul 18
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I'm a purist.
There should be no foreign managers for any country. I'm baffled fifa would even allow it.
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On The Ball
10:23 Thu Jul 18
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As someone that goes all over with England, I'd bite your hand off for Pep. But he obviously isn't going anywhere any time soon, so that's out.
I could live with Potter.
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Far Cough
9:41 Thu Jul 18
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At least Pep would know where to play Foden
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LeroysBoots
9:25 Thu Jul 18
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Pep is on 20 mill a year at City, he's hardly going to give that up for 5 million a year with England
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zico
9:21 Thu Jul 18
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El Scorchio 8:57 Thu Jul 18
Indeed a caretaker for a year would work, maybe Redknapp or Allardyce, kidding! I think Pep would go for it. The Spain manager isn't going anywhere and I also couldn't see Pep doing an International job for 8 years like Southgate. Maybe Pep until the World Cup with Potter working under him. Would learn a hell of a lot and then a smooth changeover when Pep leaves.
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El Scorchio
8:57 Thu Jul 18
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zico 8:23
100%. Probably the only reason he's not been mentioned so much is that he's under contract and is no way leaving City early. I'd take him over anyone else and I'd even put up with Lampard or Carsley caretaking for a year until his City contract runs out.
You'd be insane not to give him the job if he wanted it, regardless of nationality.
But I don't think he'd take it. I bet he fancies a go in Serie A first.
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zico
8:23 Thu Jul 18
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Pep said a few months back he wanted to be an International manager for anyone who would have him. Forget the "England manager should be English" thing for now, if Pep wanted it would you want him ahead of a Potter or Howe?
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El Scorchio
8:10 Thu Jul 18
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I'm starting to feel like it's Potter and it's already a done deal.
Given his quotes today seemed very much 'the right thing to say' for someone in waiting and the Beeb running a few little puff pieces on him.
However if it were that much of a done deal betting would be suspended, but yeah it feels like it'll be Potter.
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lowlife
7:22 Thu Jul 18
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I reckon it’ll be Potter, and I also reckon he’d do well.
Would love it, just love it, if Moyes somehow turned up at Newcastle though.
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Iron Duke
11:22 Thu Jul 18
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Another vote for Potter. He’s like Southgate but with some tactical nous. England manager should be English.
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LeroysBoots
11:08 Thu Jul 18
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I don't see the problem of big Ange getting it, if only to piss off the Spurs fans
I really like him and he has no issues with dropping players
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RootsRadical
10:41 Thu Jul 18
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It will be potter and I'm okay with that as he's a better manager than Southgate ever was at club level.
Get him in sharpesh.
Last thing we need is Lampard being given it as interim whilst we wait for someone who unrealistic or contracted.
Then he scrapes a couple of wins and is given a 3 year deal.
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ak37
10:40 Thu Jul 18
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It’s gotta be Fat Sam surely
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