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goose 12:23 Wed Jan 22
This coronavirus in China

anyone else worried? 9 dead so far.

CNY soon so the virus will spread very quickly if they cannot control it. It'll be in Europe by the end of CNY if not earlier.

is this the end of humanity?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51202216

Lee Trundle 1:34 Thu Mar 4
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My guess is that he'll have a stained old bedsheet hung up in his bedsit.

Side of Ham 1:33 Thu Mar 4
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So all we've managed to find out today is that Branded doesn't have curtains in his pretend world?

riosleftsock 1:20 Thu Mar 4
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Bolty

If they are testing 700k a day in the general community (when the prevalence is low - as it is), the results can be misleading at this level.

The LFT has a false positive rate of 0.32%

The PCR has a false positive rate of between 0.8 and 4.0%

This could provide false positives per day anywhere between 2,240 and 28,000. The number of positive cases per days is averaging about 6k, which is well within the margin of error.

Block 1:12 Thu Mar 4
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There's concern that the rates of infection etc are not dropping as quick as we've seen in the past week or so...

More scaremongering from the media, this time LBC.

Hammer and Pickle 1:12 Thu Mar 4
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151 148 vaccinations in Poland in the last 24 hours, which is actually normal. The number I gave before seems to have been a weekend thing.

riosleftsock 1:09 Thu Mar 4
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So by when Rios? 15th April is the target for 9 which cover 99% of deaths (i believe). So presumably 21 days after that? Or do we wait until they all have their 2nd dose to enable full protection?

The economy should be opened up fully today, continued support should be given to those who have to shield, a % should be set for herd immunity made up of those who have had a positive test result and those who have had the vaccine (1 dose - the results are "stunning")

And then, as you have described the disease is "very nasty" - are you suggesting that it is allowed to rip through the rest of the country with no mitigations?

How can it "rip through" when well over a third of the population have been vaccinated with the "stunning vaccine" and another 5-10m (possibly more) have had positive test results or had the virus without a test result?

Do you not believe that there is a correlation between infection levels and risks of future variants?

Not sure why you ask me to "believe", can you provide any irrefutable evidence of this? If so, then of course I would agree.

Anyway, if you believe that public health policies define the efficacy of a vaccine which has been proven to be extremely high, then good for you.

Statistics define the efficacy of a vaccine following extensive trials - public health policies do many things, some good, some bad, they do not define efficacy.

Luckily take up seems to be good, so freeloading vaccine twitchers can carry on regardless

So open up the economy and lets get the country back to work

Block 11:58 Thu Mar 4
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I can imagine your more of a BLINDS man, Brand0 son?

BRANDED 11:29 Thu Mar 4
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Capitol Man 4:37 Thu Mar 4
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There are all kinds of different stories from different countries, demographics, political and scientific persuasions. Most economies have been hit and much of human behaviour has been adjusted.
I don’t have curtains as I explained to you before.

The old c wing 11:25 Thu Mar 4
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riosleftsock 10:57 Wed Mar 3

So by when Rios? 15th April is the target for 9 which cover 99% of deaths (i believe). So presumably 21 days after that? Or do we wait until they all have their 2nd dose to enable full protection?

And then, as you have described the disease is "very nasty" - are you suggesting that it is allowed to rip through the rest of the country with no mitigations?

Do you not believe that there is a correlation between infection levels and risks of future variants?

Anyway, if you believe that public health policies define the efficacy of a vaccine which has been proven to be extremely high, then good for you.

Luckily take up seems to be good, so freeloading vaccine twitchers can carry on regardless.

Capitol Man 4:37 Thu Mar 4
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No branded - the problem is actually the virus itself. Still curtain twitching from your little pretend world aren’t you.

We have some great case studies with countries that have leaders with the same views as you, where they just want to pretend their way through things - how has that worked out?

BRANDED 11:07 Wed Mar 3
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Zeb

The problem with fear is fear itself. Most people have no idea about their actual risk.

We have the same issues with stock market crashes or wars or crime or terrorism. People get petrified by the idea not the reality.orflying?

It’s all just a nonsense.

riosleftsock 10:57 Wed Mar 3
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c wing

I'm prepared to accept that the vaccines work and are effective if the govt commits to repealing all emergency legislation once the vulnerable groups are vaccinated in sufficient quantity, the whole economy is opened up and no social distancing or mask measures remain in place.

zebthecat 10:54 Wed Mar 3
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"Covid is meaningless to most people. They just need to be positive."

What the hell are you on about?
I am all for being positive but how does that make a virus magically go away? Being positive won't stop anyone from getting infected.

BRANDED 10:51 Wed Mar 3
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Covid is meaningless to most people. They just need to be positive.

Face mask wankers like you aren’t important anyway.

Johnson 9:51 Wed Mar 3
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That's right Branded, if only people would be positive then govts all around the world will lift lockdowns and covid will just go away as it can't stand positivity.

BRANDED 9:33 Wed Mar 3
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Police break up 'fake vaccine network' in China and South Africa

BRANDED 9:30 Wed Mar 3
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That would depend on all manner of future possibilities but you keep up the positives. It’s what we need more than the vaccine.

dealcanvey 9:16 Wed Mar 3
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Uptake is around 95% so it is more than enough to put this to bed.

We are just lucky that most people are decent and understand that the vaccination program is bigger than themselves.

If we all had Lily Hammers mindset lockdown would go on for much much longer with fear of the NHS not being able to cope.

The old c wing 7:31 Wed Mar 3
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Rios,

I haven't said that. You suggested that there was a strand of scientific expertise that believed the vaccine did not stop infection nor transmission. Ergo, as it were, that it would not be effective.

Who are part of this 'strand'? What are they saying in relation to the prevailing evidence that is emerging and will continue to emerge?

Conflating the ability or choices of Government's to relax social restrictions, when less than a million have had 2 doses of vaccine, with whether the vaccine reduces transmission or not, is entirely ridiculous.

And similarly hanging on the difference between the virus and the disease is also absurd. COVID is caused by SARS-COV-2, and it is the virus, not the disease, that the vaccine fights off. That is the measure of effectiveness. Its a 'funny' vaccine, as you described, in the same way that FLU (the disease) is caused by the influenza viruses.

Your other points re the young and take up rates are rooted in years of research towards personal risks and vaccines, and are obvious and correct. Notwithstanding the freeloader principle that some seem very eager to adopt.

Tomshardware 6:14 Wed Mar 3
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Chaffinch tucker.

Capitol Man 6:05 Wed Mar 3
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While most of the population go in a real time testing environment the negative ninnies can be a Darwinian Petri dish for new strains to develop in.

That’ll show the world how much smarter they are won’t it.

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