David Moyes appointed Everton manager

[Fauxstralian]

2 and half year contract 

[twoleftfeet]

Said this before. With the level of opposition we faced during that campaign, a semi final place was the absolute minimum requirement. Yes it was great to win the thing but let's have this right. There's a reason why the only trophy Moyes has managed a team to lift is the easiest one of all to win. 

When you say easiest you forget that to get into it we had to get through a 38 game premier league season to be able to get into the tournament.

The intertoto cup was a tournament you could just apply to be in.

Also bear in mind that because we were deemed a big club in the competition other teams tried harder to beat us, you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t.

[only1billybonds]

Said this before. With the level of opposition we faced during that campaign, a semi final place was the absolute minimum requirement. Yes it was great to win the thing but let's have this right. There's a reason why the only trophy Moyes has managed a team to lift is the easiest one of all to win. 

[twoleftfeet]

It’s a major European trophy, it’s the same standard as the ECWC that we won in 1965 and that’s considered major.

The intertoto was merely a pre season qualifying tournament 

[Gank]

Not only are both competitions the third tier of Europe, but the reward for winning is entry to the second tier. 

We had never qualified for the UEFA cup before that third tier win, why are you saying it was worthless?

 

The Intertwobob cup had three 'groups' and three 'winners'. The three group 'finals' were played over two legs. The whole competition consisted of only three rounds and it all took place in July and August 1999.

It was a glorified pre-season tournament with the carrot of UEFA Cup qualification round eligibility as the only reason to enter it.

As I stated, to claim it as a major trophy and comparable to the Europa Conference League win is simply laughable.

Only people on here with anti-Moyes agendas and Moyes obsessives do so. It's just weird and stupid.

I haven’t claimed that the Intertoto was a major tournament, same as I don’t think the Conference is major either - both are made up third tier qualifiers for the more prestigious European competitions.

COYI it was you who said that the Conference was a major trophy. If I agree with you, then I’d have to say that the Intertoto is also major but as it happens I’m actually saying that neither of them are major. Definitely worth trying to win as the reward is lucrative but what Moyes achieved (and I was delighted that he did) was exactly the same as what Redknapp had achieved about 20 years sooner.

I’d even go so far as to say that if you had actually said that Moyes had won us our first meaningful silverware in 20 years, I’d agree with you 100%. 

[Mad Ferret]

Very sad indeed when Moyes haters start to sound like Spurs fans in attempting to put down West Ham’s achievements. Just to claim that Moyes didn’t win a major trophy with us.

Bizarre behaviour.

[Come On You Irons]

Not only are both competitions the third tier of Europe, but the reward for winning is entry to the second tier. 

We had never qualified for the UEFA cup before that third tier win, why are you saying it was worthless?

 

 

The Intertwobob cup had three 'groups' and three 'winners'. The three group 'finals' were played over two legs. The whole competition consisted of only three rounds and it all took place in July and August 1999.

It was a glorified pre-season tournament with the carrot of UEFA Cup qualification round eligibility as the only reason to enter it.

As I stated, to claim it as a major trophy and comparable to the Europa Conference League win is simply laughable.

Only people on here with anti-Moyes agendas and Moyes obsessives do so. It's just weird and stupid.

[twoleftfeet]

I never thought I’d be agreeing with COYI and Mad Ferret but they are right.

The intertoto cup was just a qualifying tournament to get into the main EUFA draw, if you consider this a major European trophy then we might as well include the Betway cup.

Moyes won us our first major trophy since 1980.

[Gank]

 

Thus completely different.

Must’ve missed the tens of thousands of people attending the parade when we brought the Intertoto home in 2000.

It's not worth arguing the point. There is no reasoning with stupidity.

I've just got Ladysmith to get to agree with you and I've got all 3 of you daisy chaining each other.

You're right, it's pointless arguing with me, when the issue you have is with UEFA.

I think the issue is more that Moyes’ stature is weakened somewhat when we realise that despite his assertion that he won us our only European trophy in 45 years, we actually won it under Redknapp much more recently.

[Lee Trundle]

It's not laughable at all.  The Conference League is just the Intertoto cup extended slightly, rescheduled and rebranded.

 

Thus completely different.

Must’ve missed the tens of thousands of people attending the parade when we brought the Intertoto home in 2000.

It's not worth arguing the point. There is no reasoning with stupidity.

I've just got Ladysmith to get to agree with you and I've got all 3 of you daisy chaining each other.

You're right, it's pointless arguing with me, when the issue you have is with UEFA.

[Gank]

Not only are both competitions the third tier of Europe, but the reward for winning is entry to the second tier. 

We had never qualified for the UEFA cup before that third tier win, why are you saying it was worthless?

[Come On You Irons]

 

The Intertoto (Inter 'two bob') win was in 1999 and to call it a major trophy is laughable 

We were also out of Europe by the turn of the year that season (1999-2000), lasting only two rounds I believe. So claiming you attended European games in 2000 is a brazen lie.

It's not laughable at all.  The Conference League is just the Intertoto cup extended slightly, rescheduled and rebranded.

 

Thus completely different.

Must’ve missed the tens of thousands of people attending the parade when we brought the Intertoto home in 2000.

It's not worth arguing the point. There is no reasoning with stupidity.

[Lee Trundle]

 

The Intertoto (Inter 'two bob') win was in 1999 and to call it a major trophy is laughable 

We were also out of Europe by the turn of the year that season (1999-2000), lasting only two rounds I believe. So claiming you attended European games in 2000 is a brazen lie.

It's not laughable at all.  The Conference League is just the Intertoto cup extended slightly, rescheduled and rebranded.

 

Thus completely different.

Must’ve missed the tens of thousands of people attending the parade when we brought the Intertoto home in 2000.

UEFA's 3rd tier tournament = UEFA's 3rd tier tournament

You might want to get UEFA to change their mind, before you try joe public.

You can always tell the intelligence of a WHU supporter by the way they treat the Intertoto Cup win.

[Mad Ferret]

I don’t know how old you are or how long you’ve been supporting West Ham, but I remember very fondly attending European games in 2000 which is 25 years ago, not 45.

We qualified for the UEFA cup that year for the first time ever, and we did it by winning the third tier of European competition in the 1999/2000 season.

These days, the third tier of European competition is called the Conference league. 

So Moyes did not win us our first trophy in 45 years at all.

 

The Intertoto (Inter 'two bob') win was in 1999 and to call it a major trophy is laughable 

We were also out of Europe by the turn of the year that season (1999-2000), lasting only two rounds I believe. So claiming you attended European games in 2000 is a brazen lie.

It's not laughable at all.  The Conference League is just the Intertoto cup extended slightly, rescheduled and rebranded.

 

Thus completely different.

Must’ve missed the tens of thousands of people attending the parade when we brought the Intertoto home in 2000.

[Lee Trundle]

Your obsession with the only manager to win West Ham a major trophy in the last 45 season is so strange and weird, Mr Angry.

I don’t know how old you are or how long you’ve been supporting West Ham, but I remember very fondly attending European games in 2000 which is 25 years ago, not 45.

We qualified for the UEFA cup that year for the first time ever, and we did it by winning the third tier of European competition in the 1999/2000 season.

These days, the third tier of European competition is called the Conference league. 

So Moyes did not win us our first trophy in 45 years at all.

 

The Intertoto (Inter 'two bob') win was in 1999 and to call it a major trophy is laughable 

We were also out of Europe by the turn of the year that season (1999-2000), lasting only two rounds I believe. So claiming you attended European games in 2000 is a brazen lie.

It's not laughable at all.  The Conference League is just the Intertoto cup extended slightly, rescheduled and rebranded.

[Gank]

Your obsession with the only manager to win West Ham a major trophy in the last 45 season is so strange and weird, Mr Angry.

I don’t know how old you are or how long you’ve been supporting West Ham, but I remember very fondly attending European games in 2000 which is 25 years ago, not 45.

We qualified for the UEFA cup that year for the first time ever, and we did it by winning the third tier of European competition in the 1999/2000 season.

These days, the third tier of European competition is called the Conference league. 

So Moyes did not win us our first trophy in 45 years at all.

 

The Intertoto (Inter 'two bob') win was in 1999 and to call it a major trophy is laughable 

We were also out of Europe by the turn of the year that season (1999-2000), lasting only two rounds I believe. So claiming you attended European games in 2000 is a brazen lie.

I went to Metz away, and all the home games.

[Come On You Irons]

summary of the presser.....

the squad is shit
he's only been there a couple of days (said numerous times)
he's burnt out (despite only being back a couple of days)
​​​​he has a great set of lads but just needs someone to give them a lift (that's his job)
he can't loan anyone
refers to himself in the 3rd person
moans about villa's  yearly transfer budget
doesn't know the financial resources available, seems disinterested in making any signings

Your obsession with the only manager to win West Ham a major trophy in the last 45 season is so strange and weird, Mr Angry.

I don’t know how old you are or how long you’ve been supporting West Ham, but I remember very fondly attending European games in 2000 which is 25 years ago, not 45.

We qualified for the UEFA cup that year for the first time ever, and we did it by winning the third tier of European competition in the 1999/2000 season.

These days, the third tier of European competition is called the Conference league. 

So Moyes did not win us our first trophy in 45 years at all.

 

 

The Intertoto (Inter 'two bob') win was in 1999 and to call it a major trophy is laughable 

We were also out of Europe by the turn of the year that season (1999-2000), lasting only two rounds I believe. So claiming you attended European games in 2000 is a brazen lie.

[lowlife]

Moyes calling Dyche over the weekend to tell him he didn’t take his job, and to get the ‘lowdown’ on the players in the squad is hilarious. Why would you do that? I kind get part of the first bit, having a chat with a recently sacked mate (the word Moyes used) - but not when you’ve taken his job. Asking the guy who has just been sacked, for insights on the squad, is bizarre/hilarious.

[El Scorchio]

Agreed Miike. How many times did we hear him trot out “there’s nobody that can improve on what we’ve already got”, when we only really had Antonio as a (converted) striker.

 

 

I mean in a way he was right as no-one ever did usurp him under Moyes, but so much of that was down to Moyes being stubborn and simply never giving anyone else a fair crack of the whip.

[Gank]

summary of the presser.....

the squad is shit
he's only been there a couple of days (said numerous times)
he's burnt out (despite only being back a couple of days)
​​​​he has a great set of lads but just needs someone to give them a lift (that's his job)
he can't loan anyone
refers to himself in the 3rd person
moans about villa's  yearly transfer budget
doesn't know the financial resources available, seems disinterested in making any signings

Your obsession with the only manager to win West Ham a major trophy in the last 45 season is so strange and weird, Mr Angry.

I don’t know how old you are or how long you’ve been supporting West Ham, but I remember very fondly attending European games in 2000 which is 25 years ago, not 45.

We qualified for the UEFA cup that year for the first time ever, and we did it by winning the third tier of European competition in the 1999/2000 season.

These days, the third tier of European competition is called the Conference league. 

So Moyes did not win us our first trophy in 45 years at all.

[Lee Trundle]

Are we going to get another WHOicide from you soon, COYI?

[lowlife]

Why is there an obsession with Moyes? A dying site like this one attracting over 100 posts in a few days is most unusual.

A “dying” site with “over 100 posts in a few days”

The site is the opposite of dying imo.

[Come On You Irons]

Why is there an obsession with Moyes? A dying site like this one attracting over 100 posts in a few days is most unusual.

Not only that but most posts are abusive of the only manager in the last 45 season to win West Ham a major trophy.

No wonder most people have sacked it off and moved on to KUMB and social media sites.

[Takashi Miike]

summary of the presser.....

the squad is shit
he's only been there a couple of days (said numerous times)
he's burnt out (despite only being back a couple of days)
​​​​he has a great set of lads but just needs someone to give them a lift (that's his job)
he can't loan anyone
refers to himself in the 3rd person
moans about villa's  yearly transfer budget
doesn't know the financial resources available, seems disinterested in making any signings

Your obsession with the only manager to win West Ham a major trophy in the last 45 season is so strange and weird, Mr Angry.

 

 

don't cry, Moyes cult member

[Ron Eff]

Flicked their game on before the start of Arsenal Spurs. The commentator said he was surprised Everton were not more up and at Villa like it was out of character for a David Moyes team to play a reserved style.

[Manuel]

Why is there an obsession with Moyes? A dying site like this one attracting over 100 posts in a few days is most unusual.

Probably due to the disrespect he showed to the fans and the club, then there is his sheer arrogance, nothing is ever his fault etc. There is probably a small part of me that almost admires the bravado, which is based on very little, unlike a similar cսnt in Mourinho who can at least can back it up.