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Potter Sacked!
Had enough of this arogrant no mark now.
11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.
Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.
11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.
Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.
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Re: Potter Out
Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 23:27 Potter is not the problem!
5 years of mismanagement of the squad and defensive minded football is to blame.
Give Potter 5 years, he will need it.
When you're worse than Flopetegui you are most definitely the problem.
For all the problems the squad has they've proven they're better than this.
The Potter cսnt and his crab ball are more defensive than anyone.
He's already had 5 games too many so fuck five years.
For all the problems the squad has they've proven they're better than this.
The Potter cսnt and his crab ball are more defensive than anyone.
He's already had 5 games too many so fuck five years.
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Re: Potter Out
Really? I'm always reading on here that this mess is all down to Sullivan.
We seem to have reached a point now where we've run out of words and ideas, hopes etc, it's a mess from top to bottom. Potter clearly isn't the answer, at this point I'm saying the jury is no longer out on him, it ain't gonna work, end of. When you are one up at home against possibly the worst PL side in history and then make defensive subs to see the game out and are hanging on at the end for a draw and he then comes out and says he is ''disappointed'' then the game is over. I still say he is still scarred from what happened to him at Chelsea, you can see he has no believe in himself, out of his depth. Look at his body language on the touchline, he's a fucking PE teacher.
Potter will stay, Sullivan will stay and we are stuck in that shithole bowl, there is no hope for the future. Sacking Potter and bringing in someone else will be a waste of time. The only way out of this is to close up the club. It's done. We should never have left Upton Park, now we have nothing.
I'm out of here, nothing left to talk about.
We seem to have reached a point now where we've run out of words and ideas, hopes etc, it's a mess from top to bottom. Potter clearly isn't the answer, at this point I'm saying the jury is no longer out on him, it ain't gonna work, end of. When you are one up at home against possibly the worst PL side in history and then make defensive subs to see the game out and are hanging on at the end for a draw and he then comes out and says he is ''disappointed'' then the game is over. I still say he is still scarred from what happened to him at Chelsea, you can see he has no believe in himself, out of his depth. Look at his body language on the touchline, he's a fucking PE teacher.
Potter will stay, Sullivan will stay and we are stuck in that shithole bowl, there is no hope for the future. Sacking Potter and bringing in someone else will be a waste of time. The only way out of this is to close up the club. It's done. We should never have left Upton Park, now we have nothing.
I'm out of here, nothing left to talk about.
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Re: Potter Out
I was one of those that thought Potter was a good appointment for us
but after this run of results and the performances put in (didn't watch this game but can get the gist from reports and posts) something is very wrong, fuck knows if that's down to Potter, the Borad, the players or a combination?
Personally, couldn't give a fuck about the remaining games, if anything it may be beneficial if we hit rock bottom now rather than next season, not like relegation is happening and it may prompt the club/players to sort this mess out, win the last few games and they will do fuck all.
Fuck knows if Potter should stay or not but right now Lopetegui did a better job, and that's saying something!
Never in my life have i wanted us to do badly in games, so a first for me, but this season has been the worst i can remember, even the relegation seasons i didn't feel so fucked off with the football, at least we went down fighting, surrendered both Cups and from the first game against Villa we have been shit in the league for almost every game, how the fuck we beat Arsenal away is mind boggling.
Personally, couldn't give a fuck about the remaining games, if anything it may be beneficial if we hit rock bottom now rather than next season, not like relegation is happening and it may prompt the club/players to sort this mess out, win the last few games and they will do fuck all.
Fuck knows if Potter should stay or not but right now Lopetegui did a better job, and that's saying something!
Never in my life have i wanted us to do badly in games, so a first for me, but this season has been the worst i can remember, even the relegation seasons i didn't feel so fucked off with the football, at least we went down fighting, surrendered both Cups and from the first game against Villa we have been shit in the league for almost every game, how the fuck we beat Arsenal away is mind boggling.
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Re: Potter Out
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 21:34 There's a rumour knocking about that Potter was carpeted after the game and told the summer budget is going to be reduced, drastically, following recent results as a hedge against relegation next season unless we win the majority of the remaining games.
If thaat's true sounds like Sullivan's trying to get him to walk.
Utter bullshit.
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Re: Potter Out
The worst bit about today isn't actually the result or the performance, madly. Myself and a couple of others knew that was coming. We've been in relegation form since he joined, it's bizarre many don't seem to understand that, just because we're conceding less goals. As if scoring goals is not what actually matters.
Anyway, no, that's not the worst thing. The worst thing was Potter's post match interview.
'Disappointed & frustrated'
Fucking hell!
At least our striker is fucking fuming, even if Beige Graham isn't. I wanted him to be absolutely livid with that. But little more than a shrug of the shoulders, he's disappointed. Ah, bless him. Sums him up really, and it's why it will be more of the same next season.
Anyway, no, that's not the worst thing. The worst thing was Potter's post match interview.
'Disappointed & frustrated'
Fucking hell!
At least our striker is fucking fuming, even if Beige Graham isn't. I wanted him to be absolutely livid with that. But little more than a shrug of the shoulders, he's disappointed. Ah, bless him. Sums him up really, and it's why it will be more of the same next season.
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Re: Potter Out
Potter is not the problem!
5 years of mismanagement of the squad and defensive minded football is to blame.
Give Potter 5 years, he will need it.
5 years of mismanagement of the squad and defensive minded football is to blame.
Give Potter 5 years, he will need it.
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Re: Potter Out
I think the dwarf gave up the luxury of sucking it up when he moved us to that shithole, he built the expectation level and now needs to match it. If he doesn't know how to identify a decent manager, hire someone to do it. remember, this is the cսnt that will be overseeing player recruitment in a few months
Re: Potter Out
Im not saying I would keep Potter just that its 99% likely he will be with us the start of next season. Sullivan wont replace him so you have to pray for a miracle in the transfer market over the summer to get players that can improve us in spite of who is manager. Which is why the odds are on us having another relegation flirtation yet again. Pessimism or realism? Both.
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Re: Potter Out
Sir Alf" wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 22:37 He wont be sacked, we all know that. And if he was, would we get any better? Gonna have to suck it up and pray for a miracle = extraordinarily successful transfer business that transforms the squad at a price we can afford ( even after raising 50 - 80 million from the sale of Kudus, Soucek, Coufal, Paqueta, Alvarez, Aguerd etc...). The comment by Potter about not needing a major rebuild could not have been timed any worse and been anymore misguided. Evidence suggests the complete opposite whoever the manager is.
I know I have bored everyone senseless for years about the lack of pace and athleticism in our squad especially in central midfield ( apologies as always ) but its so obvious to everyone but remains as the biggest problem we have. We still cannot, after 3 seasons since Moyes approach was rumbled, play effectively any other way than the "low block" with a fast, direct countering approach. The goal today was essentially scored that way, we were sitting deep, low block and made a fast counter, 2 or 3 passes and goal. Our other best chances were the same. We cannot, with this squad, play any other way. Even when Rice was with us we started struggling but not replacing his athleticism was criminal if the idea was to evolve the style to more possession? We are actually less equipped to play that way now more than ever despite 3 or 4 transfer windows !!. Lopetegui and Potter have clearly been tasked by Sullivan to have West Ham play a better style, more possession, more entertaining, but both managers either don't or didn't see that we aint got the players for that approach or they just felt forced to try to play that way regardless? Who knows? but it will never work with the players we have. To be fair, even Nuno was bombed out of Wolves ( after 3 good league table placings when they first got promoted ) when he similarly tried to change Wolves playing style from 30% possession to one where they would control the ball much more. He has succeeded at Forest ironically, by reverting back to the sit deep, counter attack style he had at Wolves. Admittedly with players like Gibbs White, Elanga, Anderson, Hudson-odoi etc.. they are even better at it than Wolves were or even Moyes West Ham in those first 2 seasons.
Its like bleedin "Groundhog Day", I can remember 12 months ago and once we knew Moyes was on his bike, us all saying how much the future depended on the success of Tim Steidten in the transfer market, regardless of who was appointed as coach / manager. Of course, we found out he was not in charge of all transfer matters and then we saw Sullivan appoint Lopetegui and the 3 of them making transfer picks? Amateur, chaotic, circus etc.
Get your lucky horseshoe, 4 leaf clover and rabbits foot out and pray that Kyle Macaulay can do what Steidten, Sullivan and Lopetegui failed to do so spectacularly last summer and identify and get the 5 - 7 players needed to transform the oldest, slowest, one of the worst teams in the Premier League. Odds of it happening? Very low especially when you remember that Sullivan is negotiating deals and the de facto DOF.
Oh well, its probably "our turn" for relegation again as that lovable chap Terrence Brown once say![]()
I really don’t understand this point of would we be any better if someone else was in charge
The answer to that is a huge yes providing we stop playing it cheap
Lopetegui is one of the worst managers I’ve ever seen and even he was doing a better job than Potter
I thought we couldn’t get any worse after him but boy was I wrong
Potter is an absolute fraud in this country, he hasn’t achieved a single thing of note, and I would lay money that if we give him the boot he won’t get another job in the premier league ever again
The answer to that is a huge yes providing we stop playing it cheap
Lopetegui is one of the worst managers I’ve ever seen and even he was doing a better job than Potter
I thought we couldn’t get any worse after him but boy was I wrong
Potter is an absolute fraud in this country, he hasn’t achieved a single thing of note, and I would lay money that if we give him the boot he won’t get another job in the premier league ever again
Re: Potter Out
He wont be sacked, we all know that. And if he was, would we get any better? Gonna have to suck it up and pray for a miracle = extraordinarily successful transfer business that transforms the squad at a price we can afford ( even after raising 50 - 80 million from the sale of Kudus, Soucek, Coufal, Paqueta, Alvarez, Aguerd etc...). The comment by Potter about not needing a major rebuild could not have been timed any worse and been anymore misguided. Evidence suggests the complete opposite whoever the manager is.
I know I have bored everyone senseless for years about the lack of pace and athleticism in our squad especially in central midfield ( apologies as always ) but its so obvious to everyone but remains as the biggest problem we have. We still cannot, after 3 seasons since Moyes approach was rumbled, play effectively any other way than the "low block" with a fast, direct countering approach. The goal today was essentially scored that way, we were sitting deep, low block and made a fast counter, 2 or 3 passes and goal. Our other best chances were the same. We cannot, with this squad, play any other way. Even when Rice was with us we started struggling but not replacing his athleticism was criminal if the idea was to evolve the style to more possession? We are actually less equipped to play that way now more than ever despite 3 or 4 transfer windows !!. Lopetegui and Potter have clearly been tasked by Sullivan to have West Ham play a better style, more possession, more entertaining, but both managers either don't or didn't see that we aint got the players for that approach or they just felt forced to try to play that way regardless? Who knows? but it will never work with the players we have. To be fair, even Nuno was bombed out of Wolves ( after 3 good league table placings when they first got promoted ) when he similarly tried to change Wolves playing style from 30% possession to one where they would control the ball much more. He has succeeded at Forest ironically, by reverting back to the sit deep, counter attack style he had at Wolves. Admittedly with players like Gibbs White, Elanga, Anderson, Hudson-odoi etc.. they are even better at it than Wolves were or even Moyes West Ham in those first 2 seasons.
Its like bleedin "Groundhog Day", I can remember 12 months ago and once we knew Moyes was on his bike, us all saying how much the future depended on the success of Tim Steidten in the transfer market, regardless of who was appointed as coach / manager. Of course, we found out he was not in charge of all transfer matters and then we saw Sullivan appoint Lopetegui and the 3 of them making transfer picks? Amateur, chaotic, circus etc.
Get your lucky horseshoe, 4 leaf clover and rabbits foot out and pray that Kyle Macaulay can do what Steidten, Sullivan and Lopetegui failed to do so spectacularly last summer and identify and get the 5 - 7 players needed to transform the oldest, slowest, one of the worst teams in the Premier League. Odds of it happening? Very low especially when you remember that Sullivan is negotiating deals and the de facto DOF.
Oh well, its probably "our turn" for relegation again as that lovable chap Terrence Brown once say
I know I have bored everyone senseless for years about the lack of pace and athleticism in our squad especially in central midfield ( apologies as always ) but its so obvious to everyone but remains as the biggest problem we have. We still cannot, after 3 seasons since Moyes approach was rumbled, play effectively any other way than the "low block" with a fast, direct countering approach. The goal today was essentially scored that way, we were sitting deep, low block and made a fast counter, 2 or 3 passes and goal. Our other best chances were the same. We cannot, with this squad, play any other way. Even when Rice was with us we started struggling but not replacing his athleticism was criminal if the idea was to evolve the style to more possession? We are actually less equipped to play that way now more than ever despite 3 or 4 transfer windows !!. Lopetegui and Potter have clearly been tasked by Sullivan to have West Ham play a better style, more possession, more entertaining, but both managers either don't or didn't see that we aint got the players for that approach or they just felt forced to try to play that way regardless? Who knows? but it will never work with the players we have. To be fair, even Nuno was bombed out of Wolves ( after 3 good league table placings when they first got promoted ) when he similarly tried to change Wolves playing style from 30% possession to one where they would control the ball much more. He has succeeded at Forest ironically, by reverting back to the sit deep, counter attack style he had at Wolves. Admittedly with players like Gibbs White, Elanga, Anderson, Hudson-odoi etc.. they are even better at it than Wolves were or even Moyes West Ham in those first 2 seasons.
Its like bleedin "Groundhog Day", I can remember 12 months ago and once we knew Moyes was on his bike, us all saying how much the future depended on the success of Tim Steidten in the transfer market, regardless of who was appointed as coach / manager. Of course, we found out he was not in charge of all transfer matters and then we saw Sullivan appoint Lopetegui and the 3 of them making transfer picks? Amateur, chaotic, circus etc.
Get your lucky horseshoe, 4 leaf clover and rabbits foot out and pray that Kyle Macaulay can do what Steidten, Sullivan and Lopetegui failed to do so spectacularly last summer and identify and get the 5 - 7 players needed to transform the oldest, slowest, one of the worst teams in the Premier League. Odds of it happening? Very low especially when you remember that Sullivan is negotiating deals and the de facto DOF.
Oh well, its probably "our turn" for relegation again as that lovable chap Terrence Brown once say
Re: Potter Out
Bit they won’t. The problems aren’t just potter. We have players who aren’t motivated and don’t want to be here. We have players who just aren’t up to it and we are missing quality we need to compete. That said we ahold have had enough to get over the line against Southampton FFS. Those subs were naive tho.
We’ve made our bed now. We will see what transpires over the summer and if we’re still this pony then expect the board will act. Speaking of the board they have to do their bit and back him to get the right plsyers in and not add to our problems.
Really hope we’ve hit rock bottom now and the only way is up. Expect a reaction in the next game too.
We’ve made our bed now. We will see what transpires over the summer and if we’re still this pony then expect the board will act. Speaking of the board they have to do their bit and back him to get the right plsyers in and not add to our problems.
Really hope we’ve hit rock bottom now and the only way is up. Expect a reaction in the next game too.
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Re: Potter Out
Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 20:02 Sack him tonight and give it to Nobes til the end of the season.
Then go and get Lampard in the summer, if Cov fail to go up.
Anyone who suggests Lampard as a manager of West Ham either has no knowledge of the club or is on a wind up!
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Re: Potter Out
Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 21:48 SB, it's a dictatorship. you really think he consults with anyone other than Brady?
Hi TM - realistically, yes, I do. He has to. I’m no fan of Sullivan, and like you I think he’s the source of our woes. But even he would have to consult/talk to Kretinsky etc. Kretinsky is a 27% owner of a club valued at more than £600m - so his share is worth £150m+. Sulli would have to at least speak to them about a decision like that, even if he ultimately took whatever decision followed.
Realistically, I doubt Sullivan etc will make any big decisions until the season ends - not least because he has to keep selling season tickets and limiting investment etc at any early stage jeopardises that (he might take that decision later). And even then, he’d probably stick with Potter. He’d be admitting yet another major failure, quickly, otherwise. And he’s probably too tight to sack him.
Realistically, I doubt Sullivan etc will make any big decisions until the season ends - not least because he has to keep selling season tickets and limiting investment etc at any early stage jeopardises that (he might take that decision later). And even then, he’d probably stick with Potter. He’d be admitting yet another major failure, quickly, otherwise. And he’s probably too tight to sack him.
Re: Potter Out
Im calling bollocks on this rumour.
But they may be putting pressure on him to accept some cheap options. Why is Soler suddenly getting a lot of minutes, when it seemed he was leaving at the end of the loan. JWP is starting and getting almost full games.
I reckon Potter will walk anyway if not backed in the summer.
But they may be putting pressure on him to accept some cheap options. Why is Soler suddenly getting a lot of minutes, when it seemed he was leaving at the end of the loan. JWP is starting and getting almost full games.
I reckon Potter will walk anyway if not backed in the summer.
Re: Potter Out
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 21:45THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 21:34 There's a rumour knocking about that Potter was carpeted after the game and told the summer budget is going to be reduced, drastically, following recent results as a hedge against relegation next season unless we win the majority of the remaining games.
If thaat's true sounds like Sullivan's trying to get him to walk.I know it’s not your rumour, TC, but that sounds like complete BS to me. No football club on the planet makes those sorts of decisions so quickly after a game. Not least because the way the board is currently comprised, Sullivan would probably need to discuss it with Kretinsky, the Golds and others first. Even if it was just a courtesy.
Sullivan sacked Avram Grant after the Wigan Relegation game and would not even let Grant on the coach. I think this is credible.
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THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 21:34 There's a rumour knocking about that Potter was carpeted after the game and told the summer budget is going to be reduced, drastically, following recent results as a hedge against relegation next season unless we win the majority of the remaining games.
If thaat's true sounds like Sullivan's trying to get him to walk.
I know it’s not your rumour, TC, but that sounds like complete BS to me. No football club on the planet makes those sorts of decisions so quickly after a game. Not least because the way the board is currently comprised, Sullivan would probably need to discuss it with Kretinsky, the Golds and others first. Even if it was just a courtesy.
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I can’t believe that’s true, but you never know with this car crash ownership.
There was a bit of talk before Lopetegui got sacked that Sullivan wanted to wait until the summer for Max Allegri. I wish he had waited!!
There was a bit of talk before Lopetegui got sacked that Sullivan wanted to wait until the summer for Max Allegri. I wish he had waited!!
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There's a rumour knocking about that Potter was carpeted after the game and told the summer budget is going to be reduced, drastically, following recent results as a hedge against relegation next season unless we win the majority of the remaining games.
If thaat's true sounds like Sullivan's trying to get him to walk.
If thaat's true sounds like Sullivan's trying to get him to walk.