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[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Nutsin]

Here you go Billy,

https://www.voanews.com/amp/trump-taiwa ... 95845.html

 

[Nutsin]

Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.

Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.

thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.

So desperate!

They’re facts.

The most important fact being Trumps embarrassing U-turn he was forced into.

Here is the published announcement from Apple dated Feb 2025. Announcing a $500 billion investment into US manufacturing.

I suggest you read it because it doesn’t mention making I phones.

Once again you have proven yourself to be clueless.


https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/02/ ... our-years/


Poor Goose, just keeps digging a bigger hole.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.

Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.

thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.

So desperate!

But true... look it up Nutsack.

Saying so desperate is a cop out. A lot in that list are already in the states and are just expanding as they would've done whoever was in the White House.

All you ever do is attribute the positives to Trump and the negatives to Biden without understanding any of the real reasons behind them, but the US economy was running better than most countries around the world GDP up 2.4%. Lets see what it looks like after the trade war has died down and we'll see who the trade winners are.

[Fauxstralian]

Interesting that the Canadian government was struggling coming into the election 
The opposition ends up aligned with Trump so Carney comes back from the dead & wins
Similar in Australia where the sitting Labor govt was floundering until Dutton embraced Trump … Labor wins in a landslide & Dutton as opposition leader loses his seat

Lets see where we are in a few weeks when the reduction of shipments from China sees US warehouses & distribution centres start laying off staff.

[goose]

Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.

Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.

thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.

So desperate!

They’re facts.

The most important fact being Trumps embarrassing U-turn he was forced into.

[Nutsin]

Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.

Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.

thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.

So desperate!

[goose]

Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.

Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.

thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.

[Nutsin]

But one of the products that Trump claimed would move to US production hasn’t, it’ll be made in India. It’s hardly insignificant is it? We’re talking one of the globes biggest manufacturers.

And you see the same for all tech, electronics, toys & games, clothing and ‘chips’.

Which manufacturing is relocating to America?

I already posted the list, there are plenty listed there and that’s just the beginning. Wait and see all the new investments that are announced with the new trade agreements. You’ll be crying in your corn flakes.

Not to mention the removal of Tariffs that were in place levied against the US companies d trade barriers that were in place. 

Gonna be hilarious watching you squirm with your petty whataboutism’s.


Poor old goose thinks he is having his Spartacus moment!

fucking Bozo! Ag ag ag!

A list of ‘investments’ which were by and large planned before Trump took charge. Brilliant. Reminds me of the conservatives and their new hospitals which weren’t actually new.
All of which will cost more in borrowing thanks to Trump.

whereas the first real opportunity to move manufacturing to the US by one the globes biggest manufacturers…….. and they said no. There’s a reason all of these companies offshore this stuff, and tariffs doesn’t change that.

Tariffs that were such a great idea that the markets shit their pants and forced Trump to make an embarrassing U-turn. Let me know when the US starts making iPhones like Trump said they would.

Now you’re making shit up! Why am I not surprised.

Typical Libtard move.

You should be embarrassed.

[Nutsin]

Think Reform are gaining so much support with many whose attitude is "fuck it,why not. The Tories were next to useless in the end and Labour are shambolic after only 9 months in office.  Starmer is seen as an absolute coward/liar/fraud by many and the feeling is the country is at its lowest ebb since the war so let's give something new a try.
Saying all that, there's no doubt that Labour or the Tories will find a way to sneak back in next time.

 

 

The way I see it is that it’s only gonna get a lot worse under Labour, the writing is on the wall, Reform will be next up. Although they will have their work cut out for them. Perhaps things getting worse is what’s needed to get the change that you all need.

One things for certain, the country is on the wrong track and reform is needed. Took a minute but looks like the country is finally waking up!

[goose]

Tariffs were implemented on April 2nd goose. 
Thats a fact.

As for when are the manufacturing jobs coming back?

well its hard to say exactly as nobody knows when the new trade agreements will be struck, but it’s safe to assume it’s not gonna be in 1 month ffs!

Gotta laugh at this Bozo!

But one of the products that Trump claimed would move to US production hasn’t, it’ll be made in India. It’s hardly insignificant is it? We’re talking one of the globes biggest manufacturers.

And you see the same for all tech, electronics, toys & games, clothing and ‘chips’.

Which manufacturing is relocating to America?

I already posted the list, there are plenty listed there and that’s just the beginning. Wait and see all the new investments that are announced with the new trade agreements. You’ll be crying in your corn flakes.

Not to mention the removal of Tariffs that were in place levied against the US companies d trade barriers that were in place. 

Gonna be hilarious watching you squirm with your petty whataboutism’s.


Poor old goose thinks he is having his Spartacus moment!

fucking Bozo! Ag ag ag!

A list of ‘investments’ which were by and large planned before Trump took charge. Brilliant. Reminds me of the conservatives and their new hospitals which weren’t actually new.
All of which will cost more in borrowing thanks to Trump.

whereas the first real opportunity to move manufacturing to the US by one the globes biggest manufacturers…….. and they said no. There’s a reason all of these companies offshore this stuff, and tariffs doesn’t change that.

Tariffs that were such a great idea that the markets shit their pants and forced Trump to make an embarrassing U-turn. Let me know when the US starts making iPhones like Trump said they would.

[Nutsin]

Oh so now the tariffs have only been around a month so nothing can be attributed to them? Or it can only be attributed to them when it suits you?

So when are these manufacturing jobs all coming back to the US? Because none have so far, and Apple showed you exactly what will happen.

make India great again  

Tariffs were implemented on April 2nd goose. 
Thats a fact.

As for when are the manufacturing jobs coming back?

well its hard to say exactly as nobody knows when the new trade agreements will be struck, but it’s safe to assume it’s not gonna be in 1 month ffs!

Gotta laugh at this Bozo!

But one of the products that Trump claimed would move to US production hasn’t, it’ll be made in India. It’s hardly insignificant is it? We’re talking one of the globes biggest manufacturers.

And you see the same for all tech, electronics, toys & games, clothing and ‘chips’.

Which manufacturing is relocating to America?

I already posted the list, there are plenty listed there and that’s just the beginning. Wait and see all the new investments that are announced with the new trade agreements. You’ll be crying in your corn flakes.

Not to mention the removal of Tariffs that were in place levied against the US companies d trade barriers that were in place. 

Gonna be hilarious watching you squirm with your petty whataboutism’s.


Poor old goose thinks he is having his Spartacus moment!

fucking Bozo! Ag ag ag!

[goose]

Gotta laugh at your desperation! 

Poor Goose, looking for any little prayer he can cling on to.

Tariffs have been around for 1 month. 

Oops!

ag ag ag ag!

ag ag ag ag!

Oh so now the tariffs have only been around a month so nothing can be attributed to them? Or it can only be attributed to them when it suits you?

So when are these manufacturing jobs all coming back to the US? Because none have so far, and Apple showed you exactly what will happen.

make India great again  

Tariffs were implemented on April 2nd goose. 
Thats a fact.

As for when are the manufacturing jobs coming back?

well its hard to say exactly as nobody knows when the new trade agreements will be struck, but it’s safe to assume it’s not gonna be in 1 month ffs!

Gotta laugh at this Bozo!

But one of the products that Trump claimed would move to US production hasn’t, it’ll be made in India. It’s hardly insignificant is it? We’re talking one of the globes biggest manufacturers.

And you see the same for all tech, electronics, toys & games, clothing and ‘chips’.

Which manufacturing is relocating to America?

[Nutsin]

We’re talking about manufacturing here.
Are you saying the US bureau of labour statistics are lying and 1,000 manufacturing jobs weren’t lost?

The sky has momentarily been held up because Trump was forced into an embarrassing backtrack on tariffs. 

Gotta laugh at your desperation! 

Poor Goose, looking for any little prayer he can cling on to.

Tariffs have been around for 1 month. 

Oops!

ag ag ag ag!

ag ag ag ag!

Oh so now the tariffs have only been around a month so nothing can be attributed to them? Or it can only be attributed to them when it suits you?

So when are these manufacturing jobs all coming back to the US? Because none have so far, and Apple showed you exactly what will happen.

make India great again  

Tariffs were implemented on April 2nd goose. 
Thats a fact.

As for when are the manufacturing jobs coming back?

well its hard to say exactly as nobody knows when the new trade agreements will be struck, but it’s safe to assume it’s not gonna be in 1 month ffs!

Gotta laugh at this Bozo!

[goose]

Stop lying, you’re embarassing yourself. It’s all over the thread what you have been arguing ffs!

Job numbers were just released, They showed 177,000 new jobs, with a big increase from the private sector. Was received as a strong report.
As I’ve been saying stop reading the propoganda bullshit, they’re mugging you off.
The fact that Trump has been in office 100 days and you are already desperately seeking a win is comical.

 Can we now finally agree the sky is not falling?

We’re talking about manufacturing here.
Are you saying the US bureau of labour statistics are lying and 1,000 manufacturing jobs weren’t lost?

The sky has momentarily been held up because Trump was forced into an embarrassing backtrack on tariffs. 

Gotta laugh at your desperation! 

Poor Goose, looking for any little prayer he can cling on to.

Tariffs have been around for 1 month. 

Oops!

ag ag ag ag!

ag ag ag ag!

Oh so now the tariffs have only been around a month so nothing can be attributed to them? Or it can only be attributed to them when it suits you?

So when are these manufacturing jobs all coming back to the US? Because none have so far, and Apple showed you exactly what will happen.

make India great again  

[BillyJenningsBoots]

So the sky isn’t falling now then?

All that fearmongering you’ve been lapping up like the good lil Libtard you really are is being proven wrong.

Trump is proving the Doomers wrong and all you’ve got now is Apple ffs!!’

LOL!

Doesn’t appear Apple has the supply chain issues you’ve been banging on about does it?

India will be making all US production for the I phone for now.

Poor old Goose, just doesn’t have a clue.

Are you joking?
Your entire rhetoric has been about tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US. All that’s happened is those manufacturing jobs have moved from China to India…….. and made them more expensive. 

absolute genius

the market recovery you are celebrating happened because……… Trump was forced to pause tariffs. Watch the reaction in 3 months when/if they’re reintroduced.

Here you go lying again.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... as-future/


And to be clear my rhetoric as you well know has been. 
No, the sky is not falling
No, China can’t win this Tariff battle with the USA as the USA can always find alternatives for product but China can’t replace the US Consumer.
Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening, see the link above.
Trade barriers against US companies will be removed as will Tariffs already in place against US companies.

China will do more to stop Fetanyl 

IP laws will have to be followed

Dumping will have to stop

Amd certain supply chains from China will be replaced due to national security concerns.

And the stock market will rebound which is why I bought the sell of in Tech stock and Treasuries.


So stop trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as just another libtard. We all k ow the liberal playbook, it didn’t work the first time.

Just admit, You are wrong about the Tariffs just like you have been wrong about practically everything else. Including the U K.

All anyone has to do is read the thread ffs!
 
Poor Goose floundering all over the place.

 

 

I bet if you look into those numbers a lot of it will be dubious rehashes of previous commitments re-announced to suck up to President Trumpalumpa.

For example is that $500bn Apple have promised on top of what they committed to spend in 2021 i.e the $430bn under Biden - no probably not!  

[Nutsin]

 

Amazing that I’m lying about something that I’ve never mentioned, not once.

Apple already produces in India. All they’ve done is route all the Indian production to the US and will use China to service the rest of the globe. It’s cost them $900m which will likely be passed on to consumers.

No US jobs have been created.

deffo bringing back those US manufacturing jobs lol

https://www.cityam.com/us-manufacturing ... a-revival/

“US manufacturing suffered 1,000 job losses in April in a blow to President Trump’s hopes to drive up employment in the sector.”

Stop lying, you’re embarassing yourself. It’s all over the thread what you have been arguing ffs!

Job numbers were just released, They showed 177,000 new jobs, with a big increase from the private sector. Was received as a strong report.
As I’ve been saying stop reading the propoganda bullshit, they’re mugging you off.
The fact that Trump has been in office 100 days and you are already desperately seeking a win is comical.

 Can we now finally agree the sky is not falling?

We’re talking about manufacturing here.
Are you saying the US bureau of labour statistics are lying and 1,000 manufacturing jobs weren’t lost?

The sky has momentarily been held up because Trump was forced into an embarrassing backtrack on tariffs. 

Gotta laugh at your desperation! 

Poor Goose, looking for any little prayer he can cling on to.

Tariffs have been around for 1 month. 

Oops!

ag ag ag ag!

ag ag ag ag!

[only1billybonds]

Think Reform are gaining so much support with many whose attitude is "fuck it,why not. The Tories were next to useless in the end and Labour are shambolic after only 9 months in office.  Starmer is seen as an absolute coward/liar/fraud by many and the feeling is the country is at its lowest ebb since the war so let's give something new a try.
Saying all that, there's no doubt that Labour or the Tories will find a way to sneak back in next time.

[Massive Attack]

Billy, agreed the Conservatives have been decimated. Badenoch has to go. 

My choice would be Jacob Rees Mogg

I don't mind old Mogg, but pretty irrelevant anyway as he isn't even an MP anymore, let alone the Todies next possible Leader. Which makes him as relevant as the Tories themselves these day's. They are done and there’s no turning that back around soon. Reform is the one on the up now with all the momentum. 

[Bungo]

Bungo, a lot of people in the party don't like him for his anachronistic views, it's not for nothing that Jacob Rees Mogg is known as the honourable member for the eighteenth century, which gets my vote.

I'm not quite sure that he has what we'd call 'the common touch'?

[goose]

Here you go lying again.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... as-future/


And to be clear my rhetoric as you well know has been. 
No, the sky is not falling
No, China can’t win this Tariff battle with the USA as the USA can always find alternatives for product but China can’t replace the US Consumer.
Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening, see the link above.
Trade barriers against US companies will be removed as will Tariffs already in place against US companies.

China will do more to stop Fetanyl 

IP laws will have to be followed

Dumping will have to stop

Amd certain supply chains from China will be replaced due to national security concerns.

And the stock market will rebound which is why I bought the sell of in Tech stock and Treasuries.


So stop trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as just another libtard. We all k ow the liberal playbook, it didn’t work the first time.

Just admit, You are wrong about the Tariffs just like you have been wrong about practically everything else. Including the U K.

All anyone has to do is read the thread ffs!
 
Poor Goose floundering all over the place.

 

Amazing that I’m lying about something that I’ve never mentioned, not once.

Apple already produces in India. All they’ve done is route all the Indian production to the US and will use China to service the rest of the globe. It’s cost them $900m which will likely be passed on to consumers.

No US jobs have been created.

deffo bringing back those US manufacturing jobs lol

https://www.cityam.com/us-manufacturing ... a-revival/

“US manufacturing suffered 1,000 job losses in April in a blow to President Trump’s hopes to drive up employment in the sector.”

Stop lying, you’re embarassing yourself. It’s all over the thread what you have been arguing ffs!

Job numbers were just released, They showed 177,000 new jobs, with a big increase from the private sector. Was received as a strong report.
As I’ve been saying stop reading the propoganda bullshit, they’re mugging you off.
The fact that Trump has been in office 100 days and you are already desperately seeking a win is comical.

 Can we now finally agree the sky is not falling?

We’re talking about manufacturing here.
Are you saying the US bureau of labour statistics are lying and 1,000 manufacturing jobs weren’t lost?

The sky has momentarily been held up because Trump was forced into an embarrassing backtrack on tariffs. 

[Nutsin]

Are you joking?
Your entire rhetoric has been about tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US. All that’s happened is those manufacturing jobs have moved from China to India…….. and made them more expensive. 

absolute genius

the market recovery you are celebrating happened because……… Trump was forced to pause tariffs. Watch the reaction in 3 months when/if they’re reintroduced.

Here you go lying again.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... as-future/


And to be clear my rhetoric as you well know has been. 
No, the sky is not falling
No, China can’t win this Tariff battle with the USA as the USA can always find alternatives for product but China can’t replace the US Consumer.
Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening, see the link above.
Trade barriers against US companies will be removed as will Tariffs already in place against US companies.

China will do more to stop Fetanyl 

IP laws will have to be followed

Dumping will have to stop

Amd certain supply chains from China will be replaced due to national security concerns.

And the stock market will rebound which is why I bought the sell of in Tech stock and Treasuries.


So stop trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as just another libtard. We all k ow the liberal playbook, it didn’t work the first time.

Just admit, You are wrong about the Tariffs just like you have been wrong about practically everything else. Including the U K.

All anyone has to do is read the thread ffs!
 
Poor Goose floundering all over the place.

 

Amazing that I’m lying about something that I’ve never mentioned, not once.

Apple already produces in India. All they’ve done is route all the Indian production to the US and will use China to service the rest of the globe. It’s cost them $900m which will likely be passed on to consumers.

No US jobs have been created.

deffo bringing back those US manufacturing jobs lol

https://www.cityam.com/us-manufacturing ... a-revival/

“US manufacturing suffered 1,000 job losses in April in a blow to President Trump’s hopes to drive up employment in the sector.”

Stop lying, you’re embarassing yourself. It’s all over the thread what you have been arguing ffs!

Job numbers were just released, They showed 177,000 new jobs, with a big increase from the private sector. Was received as a strong report.
As I’ve been saying stop reading the propoganda bullshit, they’re mugging you off.
The fact that Trump has been in office 100 days and you are already desperately seeking a win is comical.

 Can we now finally agree the sky is not falling?

[goose]

So the sky isn’t falling now then?

All that fearmongering you’ve been lapping up like the good lil Libtard you really are is being proven wrong.

Trump is proving the Doomers wrong and all you’ve got now is Apple ffs!!’

LOL!

Doesn’t appear Apple has the supply chain issues you’ve been banging on about does it?

India will be making all US production for the I phone for now.

Poor old Goose, just doesn’t have a clue.

Are you joking?
Your entire rhetoric has been about tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US. All that’s happened is those manufacturing jobs have moved from China to India…….. and made them more expensive. 

absolute genius

the market recovery you are celebrating happened because……… Trump was forced to pause tariffs. Watch the reaction in 3 months when/if they’re reintroduced.

Here you go lying again.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... as-future/


And to be clear my rhetoric as you well know has been. 
No, the sky is not falling
No, China can’t win this Tariff battle with the USA as the USA can always find alternatives for product but China can’t replace the US Consumer.
Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening, see the link above.
Trade barriers against US companies will be removed as will Tariffs already in place against US companies.

China will do more to stop Fetanyl 

IP laws will have to be followed

Dumping will have to stop

Amd certain supply chains from China will be replaced due to national security concerns.

And the stock market will rebound which is why I bought the sell of in Tech stock and Treasuries.


So stop trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as just another libtard. We all k ow the liberal playbook, it didn’t work the first time.

Just admit, You are wrong about the Tariffs just like you have been wrong about practically everything else. Including the U K.

All anyone has to do is read the thread ffs!
 
Poor Goose floundering all over the place.

 

 

Amazing that I’m lying about something that I’ve never mentioned, not once.

Apple already produces in India. All they’ve done is route all the Indian production to the US and will use China to service the rest of the globe. It’s cost them $900m which will likely be passed on to consumers.

No US jobs have been created.

deffo bringing back those US manufacturing jobs lol

https://www.cityam.com/us-manufacturing ... a-revival/

“US manufacturing suffered 1,000 job losses in April in a blow to President Trump’s hopes to drive up employment in the sector.”

[Far Cough UKunt]

Bungo, a lot of people in the party don't like him for his anachronistic views, it's not for nothing that Jacob Rees Mogg is known as the honourable member for the eighteenth century, which gets my vote.

[Nutsin]

Didn’t Trump say they’d make Apple manufacture iPhones in the US??




 

So the sky isn’t falling now then?

All that fearmongering you’ve been lapping up like the good lil Libtard you really are is being proven wrong.

Trump is proving the Doomers wrong and all you’ve got now is Apple ffs!!’

LOL!

Doesn’t appear Apple has the supply chain issues you’ve been banging on about does it?

India will be making all US production for the I phone for now.

Poor old Goose, just doesn’t have a clue.

Are you joking?
Your entire rhetoric has been about tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US. All that’s happened is those manufacturing jobs have moved from China to India…….. and made them more expensive. 

absolute genius

the market recovery you are celebrating happened because……… Trump was forced to pause tariffs. Watch the reaction in 3 months when/if they’re reintroduced.

Here you go lying again.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... as-future/


And to be clear my rhetoric as you well know has been. 
No, the sky is not falling
No, China can’t win this Tariff battle with the USA as the USA can always find alternatives for product but China can’t replace the US Consumer.
Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening, see the link above.
Trade barriers against US companies will be removed as will Tariffs already in place against US companies.

China will do more to stop Fetanyl 

IP laws will have to be followed

Dumping will have to stop

Amd certain supply chains from China will be replaced due to national security concerns.

And the stock market will rebound which is why I bought the sell of in Tech stock and Treasuries.


So stop trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as just another libtard. We all k ow the liberal playbook, it didn’t work the first time.

Just admit, You are wrong about the Tariffs just like you have been wrong about practically everything else. Including the U K.

All anyone has to do is read the thread ffs!
 
Poor Goose floundering all over the place.

[Bungo]

Billy, agreed the Conservatives have been decimated. Badenoch has to go. 

My choice would be Jacob Rees Mogg

I always got the feeling that she was put in place when she was so they could show their 'progress' by putting in somebody more electable before the next election.

I too am sure that JRM would fit that bill admirably!