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Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:20goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:12Better informed![]()
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Good one.
Why I’m laughing is very simple:
Trump said tariffs would bring manufacturing back to the US.
Trump said his tariffs would mean iPhones would be produced in America.
They didn’t.
All Apple did was switch where the shipments go.
So now they won’t be producing iPhones in the US, but the iPhones you do get will be a bit more expensive.
Thats why I’m laughing.So ignorant!
Trump is bringing manufacturing back to the USA. FACT.
I think you’ll find there is a bit more to the $500 billion Apple switch.
Once again showing just how little you know.
I know they won’t be making iPhones.
Trump may well get more favourable trade terms, nobody knows yet……… not even you with your magical Indian trade deal.
but what he won’t be doing is manufacturing iPhones or laptops or toys or clothing or the vast majority of semiconductors or solar panels etc etc etc.
Trump may well get more favourable trade terms, nobody knows yet……… not even you with your magical Indian trade deal.
but what he won’t be doing is manufacturing iPhones or laptops or toys or clothing or the vast majority of semiconductors or solar panels etc etc etc.
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goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:12Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:07goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:05lol you said “trump does a deal with India”.
But he hasn’t. So yes, the deal Starmers government have finalised is a good deal. When/if Trump gets a deal with India then maybe he can celebrate, but he hasn’t.
i don’t know why you think Trump has done a deal with India.Because as per I’m better informed than you.
so you laughing at Trump for the I phone move to India was just another example of your TDS ?
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Good one.
Why I’m laughing is very simple:
Trump said tariffs would bring manufacturing back to the US.
Trump said his tariffs would mean iPhones would be produced in America.
They didn’t.
All Apple did was switch where the shipments go.
So now they won’t be producing iPhones in the US, but the iPhones you do get will be a bit more expensive.
Thats why I’m laughing.
So ignorant!
Trump is bringing manufacturing back to the USA. FACT.
I think you’ll find there is a bit more to the $500 billion Apple switch.
Once again showing just how little you know.
Trump is bringing manufacturing back to the USA. FACT.
I think you’ll find there is a bit more to the $500 billion Apple switch.
Once again showing just how little you know.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:07goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:05Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:02It’s yet to be announced but when it is I expect you to come on here and REPEAT that Trump is making India great again.
Not sure if You are confused or simply Lying again, it was YOU that was on here laughing at Trump for I phones being made in India now not China, it definitely wasn’t me.
So why don’t you tell me about the deal Trump
struck with India?lol you said “trump does a deal with India”.
But he hasn’t. So yes, the deal Starmers government have finalised is a good deal. When/if Trump gets a deal with India then maybe he can celebrate, but he hasn’t.
i don’t know why you think Trump has done a deal with India.Because as per I’m better informed than you.
so you laughing at Trump for the I phone move to India was just another example of your TDS ?
Better informed
Good one.
Why I’m laughing is very simple:
Trump said tariffs would bring manufacturing back to the US.
Trump said his tariffs would mean iPhones would be produced in America.
They didn’t.
All Apple did was switch where the shipments go.
So now they won’t be producing iPhones in the US, but the iPhones you do get will be a bit more expensive.
Thats why I’m laughing.
Good one.
Why I’m laughing is very simple:
Trump said tariffs would bring manufacturing back to the US.
Trump said his tariffs would mean iPhones would be produced in America.
They didn’t.
All Apple did was switch where the shipments go.
So now they won’t be producing iPhones in the US, but the iPhones you do get will be a bit more expensive.
Thats why I’m laughing.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:07goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:05Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:02It’s yet to be announced but when it is I expect you to come on here and REPEAT that Trump is making India great again.
Not sure if You are confused or simply Lying again, it was YOU that was on here laughing at Trump for I phones being made in India now not China, it definitely wasn’t me.
So why don’t you tell me about the deal Trump
struck with India?lol you said “trump does a deal with India”.
But he hasn’t. So yes, the deal Starmers government have finalised is a good deal. When/if Trump gets a deal with India then maybe he can celebrate, but he hasn’t.
i don’t know why you think Trump has done a deal with India.Because as per I’m better informed than you.
so you laughing at Trump for the I phone move to India was just another example of your TDS ?
Just like a giddy little school girl!
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goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:05Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:02It’s yet to be announced but when it is I expect you to come on here and REPEAT that Trump is making India great again.
Not sure if You are confused or simply Lying again, it was YOU that was on here laughing at Trump for I phones being made in India now not China, it definitely wasn’t me.
So why don’t you tell me about the deal Trump
struck with India?lol you said “trump does a deal with India”.
But he hasn’t. So yes, the deal Starmers government have finalised is a good deal. When/if Trump gets a deal with India then maybe he can celebrate, but he hasn’t.
i don’t know why you think Trump has done a deal with India.
Because as per I’m better informed than you.
so you laughing at Trump for the I phone move to India was just another example of your TDS ?
so you laughing at Trump for the I phone move to India was just another example of your TDS ?
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Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 22:02It’s yet to be announced but when it is I expect you to come on here and REPEAT that Trump is making India great again.
Not sure if You are confused or simply Lying again, it was YOU that was on here laughing at Trump for I phones being made in India now not China, it definitely wasn’t me.
So why don’t you tell me about the deal Trump
struck with India?
lol you said “trump does a deal with India”.
But he hasn’t. So yes, the deal Starmers government have finalised is a good deal. When/if Trump gets a deal with India then maybe he can celebrate, but he hasn’t.
i don’t know why you think Trump has done a deal with India.
But he hasn’t. So yes, the deal Starmers government have finalised is a good deal. When/if Trump gets a deal with India then maybe he can celebrate, but he hasn’t.
i don’t know why you think Trump has done a deal with India.
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It’s yet to be announced but when it is I expect you to come on here and REPEAT that Trump is making India great again.
Not sure if You are confused or simply Lying again, it was YOU that was on here laughing at Trump for I phones being made in India now not China, it definitely wasn’t me.
So why don’t you tell me about the deal Trump
struck with India?
Not sure if You are confused or simply Lying again, it was YOU that was on here laughing at Trump for I phones being made in India now not China, it definitely wasn’t me.
So why don’t you tell me about the deal Trump
struck with India?
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Tell me about this deal Trump has struck with India……
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Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:47Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:40goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:37Why would I be embarrassed to have voted for the party which gained a huge majority? If I truly believed in them why would I be embarrassed? They won by a mile.
apparently because I can tell the difference between employer contributions and employee contribution that means I voted for them.
btw it was the conservatives who cut NI. Because I know that does that mean I voted for them as well?Pretty easy to sit there and have a debate as a so called neutral. I’ve been transparent from day one, you either stand for something or fall for anything.
We all know what you have fallen for. Good luck with that because it’s only gonna get a lot worse.Globalism for one. Liberalism for another or should I say Socialism.
Believing what your oppressive Gov’t are telling you. You know the Gov’t you are not allowed to criticize.
Liberal media and their constant fake news that you constantly repeat.
Your left wing brainwashed opinion of Trump. You’ll believe anything you read as long as it is Trump negative.
Yeah you’ve fallen for plenty.
I'm not sure you understand half the words you type.
socialism? I was the one defending a cut to benefits and you were criticising it!! Who’s the socialist?
You approach this stuff like supporting a football team, you’ll only ever support one side of anything depending on your team.
socialism? I was the one defending a cut to benefits and you were criticising it!! Who’s the socialist?
You approach this stuff like supporting a football team, you’ll only ever support one side of anything depending on your team.
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goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:45So you’re comparing the uk agreeing a trade deal with India to Apple re jigging their shipments destination to avoid Trumps tariffs?
yes I laughed about it because it made him look silly for claiming that the US was going to produce iPhones.
No you made a big deal about it at the time. My position has always been I’d rather the US move all Chinese trade to India, it makes the world of sense.
Apple has announced a $500 billion investment into the USA so don’t know why you’d laugh at Trump?
what it shows is you’ve been brainwashed with TDS from the fake news networks you pretend you don’t listen to.
Just another example of your true colours you are trying desperately to hide……Coward! Own it at least you’d have some self respect.
Apple has announced a $500 billion investment into the USA so don’t know why you’d laugh at Trump?
what it shows is you’ve been brainwashed with TDS from the fake news networks you pretend you don’t listen to.
Just another example of your true colours you are trying desperately to hide……Coward! Own it at least you’d have some self respect.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:40goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:37Why would I be embarrassed to have voted for the party which gained a huge majority? If I truly believed in them why would I be embarrassed? They won by a mile.
apparently because I can tell the difference between employer contributions and employee contribution that means I voted for them.
btw it was the conservatives who cut NI. Because I know that does that mean I voted for them as well?Pretty easy to sit there and have a debate as a so called neutral. I’ve been transparent from day one, you either stand for something or fall for anything.
We all know what you have fallen for. Good luck with that because it’s only gonna get a lot worse.
Globalism for one. Liberalism for another or should I say Socialism.
Believing what your oppressive Gov’t are telling you. You know the Gov’t you are not allowed to criticize.
Liberal media and their constant fake news that you constantly repeat.
Your left wing brainwashed opinion of Trump. You’ll believe anything you read as long as it is Trump negative.
Yeah you’ve fallen for plenty.
Believing what your oppressive Gov’t are telling you. You know the Gov’t you are not allowed to criticize.
Liberal media and their constant fake news that you constantly repeat.
Your left wing brainwashed opinion of Trump. You’ll believe anything you read as long as it is Trump negative.
Yeah you’ve fallen for plenty.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:42I phones being built in India now for the American meat remember?
This was when all you had to argue was I phone production and nothing else. Probably a few pages back on this thread.
OR are you gonna lie again and pretend you didn’t mock Trump for the deal?
So you’re comparing the uk agreeing a trade deal with India to Apple re jigging their shipments destination to avoid Trumps tariffs?
yes I laughed about it because it made him look silly for claiming that the US was going to produce iPhones.
yes I laughed about it because it made him look silly for claiming that the US was going to produce iPhones.
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I phones being built in India now for the American meat remember?
This was when all you had to argue was I phone production and nothing else. Probably a few pages back on this thread.
OR are you gonna lie again and pretend you didn’t mock Trump for the deal?
This was when all you had to argue was I phone production and nothing else. Probably a few pages back on this thread.
OR are you gonna lie again and pretend you didn’t mock Trump for the deal?
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Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:40goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:37Why would I be embarrassed to have voted for the party which gained a huge majority? If I truly believed in them why would I be embarrassed? They won by a mile.
apparently because I can tell the difference between employer contributions and employee contribution that means I voted for them.
btw it was the conservatives who cut NI. Because I know that does that mean I voted for them as well?Pretty easy to sit there and have a debate as a so called neutral. I’ve been transparent from day one, you either stand for something or fall for anything.
We all know what you have fallen for. Good luck with that because it’s only gonna get a lot worse.
Sorry what have I fallen for?
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goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:37Why would I be embarrassed to have voted for the party which gained a huge majority? If I truly believed in them why would I be embarrassed? They won by a mile.
apparently because I can tell the difference between employer contributions and employee contribution that means I voted for them.
btw it was the conservatives who cut NI. Because I know that does that mean I voted for them as well?
Pretty easy to sit there and have a debate as a so called neutral. I’ve been transparent from day one, you either stand for something or fall for anything.
We all know what you have fallen for. Good luck with that because it’s only gonna get a lot worse.
We all know what you have fallen for. Good luck with that because it’s only gonna get a lot worse.
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What deal has Trump agreed with India?
Apple already produce iPhones in India. They switched their shipments destination to avoid paying the Chinese tariffs.
Apple already produce iPhones in India. They switched their shipments destination to avoid paying the Chinese tariffs.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:32No all along you’ve been fence sitting pretending to lean right, however it’s apparent that isn’t the case. You’re just embarrassed to admit it because you know it’s a losing hand.
I got you from day one.
Why would I be embarrassed to have voted for the party which gained a huge majority? If I truly believed in them why would I be embarrassed? They won by a mile.
apparently because I can tell the difference between employer contributions and employee contribution that means I voted for them.
btw it was the conservatives who cut NI. Because I know that does that mean I voted for them as well?
apparently because I can tell the difference between employer contributions and employee contribution that means I voted for them.
btw it was the conservatives who cut NI. Because I know that does that mean I voted for them as well?
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Starmer strikes a deal with India and it’s good biz
Trump strikes a deal with India and he’s making India great again.
Have a word with yourself, you look ridiculous!
Trump strikes a deal with India and he’s making India great again.
Have a word with yourself, you look ridiculous!
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goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:22Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:20goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:01No more desperate for a trade deal than Trump is I would say. Who wouldn’t want a mutually beneficial deal with the fastest growing economy in the G20.
The UK economy actually grew more than the US in Q1 although that’s nothing to write home about.
As for taxation, no it hasn’t gone up. It actually went down last year. Employer contributions have gone up.
If you look at taxation + healthcare contributions as a % of GDP the U.K. is pretty much in line with the USA.Sounds like you’re a bit defensive. Your true colours are shining through. Confirms everything Ive been saying about you. Your dirty little secret is out!My dirty little secret that I can read some numbers off a graph or table? Or that I understand when taxes go down instead of up?
Yeh you got me there.
No all along you’ve been fence sitting pretending to lean right, however it’s apparent that isn’t the case. You’re just embarrassed to admit it because you know it’s a losing hand.
I got you from day one.
I got you from day one.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:21Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:20goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:01No more desperate for a trade deal than Trump is I would say. Who wouldn’t want a mutually beneficial deal with the fastest growing economy in the G20.
The UK economy actually grew more than the US in Q1 although that’s nothing to write home about.
As for taxation, no it hasn’t gone up. It actually went down last year. Employer contributions have gone up.
If you look at taxation + healthcare contributions as a % of GDP the U.K. is pretty much in line with the USA.Sounds like you’re a bit defensive. Your true colours are shining through. Confirms everything Ive been saying about you. Your dirty little secret is out!I’ll take Trump over Starmer any day of the week.
I’ll take neither thanks.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:20goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:01Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 20:34Because he needs a win bad after the elections and the economy is on life support, plus there is the cost of immigration that is gonna continue to rise as more and more pile in. They are already raising N I contributions, taxation is through the roof and benefits are getting cut. Desperate times call for desperate measures.No more desperate for a trade deal than Trump is I would say. Who wouldn’t want a mutually beneficial deal with the fastest growing economy in the G20.
The UK economy actually grew more than the US in Q1 although that’s nothing to write home about.
As for taxation, no it hasn’t gone up. It actually went down last year. Employer contributions have gone up.
If you look at taxation + healthcare contributions as a % of GDP the U.K. is pretty much in line with the USA.Sounds like you’re a bit defensive. Your true colours are shining through. Confirms everything Ive been saying about you. Your dirty little secret is out!
My dirty little secret that I can read some numbers off a graph or table? Or that I understand when taxes go down instead of up?
Yeh you got me there.
Yeh you got me there.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:20goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:01Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 20:34Because he needs a win bad after the elections and the economy is on life support, plus there is the cost of immigration that is gonna continue to rise as more and more pile in. They are already raising N I contributions, taxation is through the roof and benefits are getting cut. Desperate times call for desperate measures.No more desperate for a trade deal than Trump is I would say. Who wouldn’t want a mutually beneficial deal with the fastest growing economy in the G20.
The UK economy actually grew more than the US in Q1 although that’s nothing to write home about.
As for taxation, no it hasn’t gone up. It actually went down last year. Employer contributions have gone up.
If you look at taxation + healthcare contributions as a % of GDP the U.K. is pretty much in line with the USA.Sounds like you’re a bit defensive. Your true colours are shining through. Confirms everything Ive been saying about you. Your dirty little secret is out!
I’ll take Trump over Starmer any day of the week.
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goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:01Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 20:34Because he needs a win bad after the elections and the economy is on life support, plus there is the cost of immigration that is gonna continue to rise as more and more pile in. They are already raising N I contributions, taxation is through the roof and benefits are getting cut. Desperate times call for desperate measures.No more desperate for a trade deal than Trump is I would say. Who wouldn’t want a mutually beneficial deal with the fastest growing economy in the G20.
The UK economy actually grew more than the US in Q1 although that’s nothing to write home about.
As for taxation, no it hasn’t gone up. It actually went down last year. Employer contributions have gone up.
If you look at taxation + healthcare contributions as a % of GDP the U.K. is pretty much in line with the USA.
Sounds like you’re a bit defensive. Your true colours are shining through. Confirms everything Ive been saying about you. Your dirty little secret is out!