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Fastest growing economy in the G7, seems Rachel from accounts isn't just a pair of tits after all.....
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Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
only1billybonds wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 07:52 Starmer is only 'getting tough' because the Reform party did so well in the recent local elections. He is reacting out of fear,not genuine concern.
Cowardly duplicitous cսnt!
Last time this sort of thing happened, a then Prime Minister allowed a certain referendum, the result really upset Swiss and Hammer & Pickle.
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I thought Christy's reporting on the migrant crisis was excellent last night shining a light on a lot of it that both the French authorities and British mainstream Media don't like reported on....
That's proper Journalism.
That's proper Journalism.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 17:54goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 17:44Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 17:31Trump didn’t take office till Jan 20th, not sure the first 3 months of 2025 will show any of Trumps influence. Even a 6 year iold would understand that.
Yes, as I said investment is coming in, new infrastructure and plants are being built. Why is that so difficult for you to understand.
Saudi Arabia just announced a new $600 billion investment in the USA, quick check the stats to see if the jobs show up why don’t you.
There is conjecture and there is common sense, if you think Trump doesn’t get his tax cuts then you are even more retarded than I gave you credit for.
so unbelievably stupid.
Floundering!Claiming that the economy will be booming is conjecture given that it’s just shrunk and the growth fc has been downgraded by everyone.
A report recently published by Yale believes that the tariffs will cost the average household $3,800 a year.
Floundering!
I wouldn’t say their economy is floundering, but all the problems are self inflicted.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 17:44Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 17:31goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 16:50So it’s not happening already? As we stand no new manufacturing jobs have been created, in fact some were lost. And let’s not confuse investment with jobs, the two don’t necessarily go hand in hand.
is it nit picking to point out that energy costs went up last month, the US economy didn’t boom in Q1, and no tax cuts have been passed yet.
what were you saying about conjecture?Trump didn’t take office till Jan 20th, not sure the first 3 months of 2025 will show any of Trumps influence. Even a 6 year iold would understand that.
Yes, as I said investment is coming in, new infrastructure and plants are being built. Why is that so difficult for you to understand.
Saudi Arabia just announced a new $600 billion investment in the USA, quick check the stats to see if the jobs show up why don’t you.
There is conjecture and there is common sense, if you think Trump doesn’t get his tax cuts then you are even more retarded than I gave you credit for.
so unbelievably stupid.
Floundering!Claiming that the economy will be booming is conjecture given that it’s just shrunk and the growth fc has been downgraded by everyone.
A report recently published by Yale believes that the tariffs will cost the average household $3,800 a year.
Floundering!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 17:31goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 16:50Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 16:22Jesus Christ, do I have to spell everything out to you ffs!
Trump has brought in trillions in new investments into the USA, that is already happening. That’s a Fact! All this new investment will create new US jobs, Doesn’t mean the jobs will show up day one you fucking melt.
Yeah people will buy more with lower energy costs, tax cuts, a booming economy a booming middle class and more open markets to trade in, sure they will.
Fact that you have been on here nit picking every minor detail you can find while Trump is announcing major win after win shows just how desperate you are becoming. It’s about to get a lot worse for you in the coming months and I’m gonna continue to enjoy every second of it.
Floundering!So it’s not happening already? As we stand no new manufacturing jobs have been created, in fact some were lost. And let’s not confuse investment with jobs, the two don’t necessarily go hand in hand.
is it nit picking to point out that energy costs went up last month, the US economy didn’t boom in Q1, and no tax cuts have been passed yet.
what were you saying about conjecture?Trump didn’t take office till Jan 20th, not sure the first 3 months of 2025 will show any of Trumps influence. Even a 6 year iold would understand that.
Yes, as I said investment is coming in, new infrastructure and plants are being built. Why is that so difficult for you to understand.
Saudi Arabia just announced a new $600 billion investment in the USA, quick check the stats to see if the jobs show up why don’t you.
There is conjecture and there is common sense, if you think Trump doesn’t get his tax cuts then you are even more retarded than I gave you credit for.
so unbelievably stupid.
Floundering!
Claiming that the economy will be booming is conjecture given that it’s just shrunk and the growth fc has been downgraded by everyone.
A report recently published by Yale believes that the tariffs will cost the average household $3,800 a year.
A report recently published by Yale believes that the tariffs will cost the average household $3,800 a year.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 16:50Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 16:22goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 16:12This is what you said:
"Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening"
But its not already happening is it? In fact the opposite has happened.
Offset any losses by selling more? Why are they suddenly going to be selling more? It's the same product with a higher COGS. You think people will magically just buy more?Jesus Christ, do I have to spell everything out to you ffs!
Trump has brought in trillions in new investments into the USA, that is already happening. That’s a Fact! All this new investment will create new US jobs, Doesn’t mean the jobs will show up day one you fucking melt.
Yeah people will buy more with lower energy costs, tax cuts, a booming economy a booming middle class and more open markets to trade in, sure they will.
Fact that you have been on here nit picking every minor detail you can find while Trump is announcing major win after win shows just how desperate you are becoming. It’s about to get a lot worse for you in the coming months and I’m gonna continue to enjoy every second of it.
Floundering!So it’s not happening already? As we stand no new manufacturing jobs have been created, in fact some were lost. And let’s not confuse investment with jobs, the two don’t necessarily go hand in hand.
is it nit picking to point out that energy costs went up last month, the US economy didn’t boom in Q1, and no tax cuts have been passed yet.
what were you saying about conjecture?
Trump didn’t take office till Jan 20th, not sure the first 3 months of 2025 will show any of Trumps influence. Even a 6 year iold would understand that.
Yes, as I said investment is coming in, new infrastructure and plants are being built. Why is that so difficult for you to understand.
Saudi Arabia just announced a new $600 billion investment in the USA, quick check the stats to see if the jobs show up why don’t you.
There is conjecture and there is common sense, if you think Trump doesn’t get his tax cuts then you are even more retarded than I gave you credit for.
so unbelievably stupid.
Floundering!
Yes, as I said investment is coming in, new infrastructure and plants are being built. Why is that so difficult for you to understand.
Saudi Arabia just announced a new $600 billion investment in the USA, quick check the stats to see if the jobs show up why don’t you.
There is conjecture and there is common sense, if you think Trump doesn’t get his tax cuts then you are even more retarded than I gave you credit for.
so unbelievably stupid.
Floundering!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 16:22goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 16:12Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:51Decline in profits? You could always get more market share and offset any loss in profits by selling more, It’s nothing new silly nuts.
and stop lying about what I said, anyone with half a brain knows that any new manufacturing jobs wouldn’t show up in the first 29 days. I said Trump is bringing manufacturing jobs back that doesn’t mean they will show up instantly. Yet another example of just how retarded you really are.
Stop floundering you’re embarassing yourself.This is what you said:
"Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening"
But its not already happening is it? In fact the opposite has happened.
Offset any losses by selling more? Why are they suddenly going to be selling more? It's the same product with a higher COGS. You think people will magically just buy more?Jesus Christ, do I have to spell everything out to you ffs!
Trump has brought in trillions in new investments into the USA, that is already happening. That’s a Fact! All this new investment will create new US jobs, Doesn’t mean the jobs will show up day one you fucking melt.
Yeah people will buy more with lower energy costs, tax cuts, a booming economy a booming middle class and more open markets to trade in, sure they will.
Fact that you have been on here nit picking every minor detail you can find while Trump is announcing major win after win shows just how desperate you are becoming. It’s about to get a lot worse for you in the coming months and I’m gonna continue to enjoy every second of it.
Floundering!
So it’s not happening already? As we stand no new manufacturing jobs have been created, in fact some were lost. And let’s not confuse investment with jobs, the two don’t necessarily go hand in hand.
is it nit picking to point out that energy costs went up last month, the US economy didn’t boom in Q1, and no tax cuts have been passed yet.
what were you saying about conjecture?
is it nit picking to point out that energy costs went up last month, the US economy didn’t boom in Q1, and no tax cuts have been passed yet.
what were you saying about conjecture?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 16:12Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:51goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:22I’ve just said to you that the input prices will tell the story over the next 3 months.
You posted that manufacturing jobs were on the rise, which was a lie.
So you want manufacturers and retailers to make less profit? What do you suppose organisations do when they see declines in profits? What do markets do?Decline in profits? You could always get more market share and offset any loss in profits by selling more, It’s nothing new silly nuts.
and stop lying about what I said, anyone with half a brain knows that any new manufacturing jobs wouldn’t show up in the first 29 days. I said Trump is bringing manufacturing jobs back that doesn’t mean they will show up instantly. Yet another example of just how retarded you really are.
Stop floundering you’re embarassing yourself.This is what you said:
"Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening"
But its not already happening is it? In fact the opposite has happened.
Offset any losses by selling more? Why are they suddenly going to be selling more? It's the same product with a higher COGS. You think people will magically just buy more?
Jesus Christ, do I have to spell everything out to you ffs!
Trump has brought in trillions in new investments into the USA, that is already happening. That’s a Fact! All this new investment will create new US jobs, Doesn’t mean the jobs will show up day one you fucking melt.
Yeah people will buy more with lower energy costs, tax cuts, a booming economy a booming middle class and more open markets to trade in, sure they will.
Fact that you have been on here nit picking every minor detail you can find while Trump is announcing major win after win shows just how desperate you are becoming. It’s about to get a lot worse for you in the coming months and I’m gonna continue to enjoy every second of it.
Floundering!
Trump has brought in trillions in new investments into the USA, that is already happening. That’s a Fact! All this new investment will create new US jobs, Doesn’t mean the jobs will show up day one you fucking melt.
Yeah people will buy more with lower energy costs, tax cuts, a booming economy a booming middle class and more open markets to trade in, sure they will.
Fact that you have been on here nit picking every minor detail you can find while Trump is announcing major win after win shows just how desperate you are becoming. It’s about to get a lot worse for you in the coming months and I’m gonna continue to enjoy every second of it.
Floundering!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:51goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:22Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:16No you make your mind up, lol.
Says the clown who wants to know where the manufacturing jobs are in the first 29 days, what a cսnt!
Here’s another lesson for you, an increase in wholesale prices doesn’t always translate to on increase in prices to the consumer, sometimes manufacturers eat the increase to remain competitive and operate under smaller margins.
Energy prices always fluctuate, wanna k ow what pushes prices up? More demand. Perhaps we about gonna see a recession after all let alone a depression like you’ve been spouting.
As for the Fed, they are not always right and as Trump said are often late on interest rate cuts. I remember Janet Yellen telling us all that Biden’s inflation was transitory ffs. How fucking wrong was she.
Floundering!I’ve just said to you that the input prices will tell the story over the next 3 months.
You posted that manufacturing jobs were on the rise, which was a lie.
So you want manufacturers and retailers to make less profit? What do you suppose organisations do when they see declines in profits? What do markets do?Decline in profits? You could always get more market share and offset any loss in profits by selling more, It’s nothing new silly nuts.
and stop lying about what I said, anyone with half a brain knows that any new manufacturing jobs wouldn’t show up in the first 29 days. I said Trump is bringing manufacturing jobs back that doesn’t mean they will show up instantly. Yet another example of just how retarded you really are.
Stop floundering you’re embarassing yourself.
This is what you said:
"Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening"
But its not already happening is it? In fact the opposite has happened.
Offset any losses by selling more? Why are they suddenly going to be selling more? It's the same product with a higher COGS. You think people will magically just buy more?
"Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening"
But its not already happening is it? In fact the opposite has happened.
Offset any losses by selling more? Why are they suddenly going to be selling more? It's the same product with a higher COGS. You think people will magically just buy more?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:22Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:16goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:00Make your mind up - it's either too early to tell or it isn't.
You know what went up? energy prices - so tell me how that works with manufacturing inputs?
Trump needs interest rates to come down, and already the market has moved away from June cuts to September, and they've moved away from 3 cuts and priced in 2 cuts. What's the interest on US debt? $1.2trn so about £100bn per month.No you make your mind up, lol.
Says the clown who wants to know where the manufacturing jobs are in the first 29 days, what a cսnt!
Here’s another lesson for you, an increase in wholesale prices doesn’t always translate to on increase in prices to the consumer, sometimes manufacturers eat the increase to remain competitive and operate under smaller margins.
Energy prices always fluctuate, wanna k ow what pushes prices up? More demand. Perhaps we about gonna see a recession after all let alone a depression like you’ve been spouting.
As for the Fed, they are not always right and as Trump said are often late on interest rate cuts. I remember Janet Yellen telling us all that Biden’s inflation was transitory ffs. How fucking wrong was she.
Floundering!I’ve just said to you that the input prices will tell the story over the next 3 months.
You posted that manufacturing jobs were on the rise, which was a lie.
So you want manufacturers and retailers to make less profit? What do you suppose organisations do when they see declines in profits? What do markets do?
Decline in profits? You could always get more market share and offset any loss in profits by selling more, It’s nothing new silly nuts.
and stop lying about what I said, anyone with half a brain knows that any new manufacturing jobs wouldn’t show up in the first 29 days. I said Trump is bringing manufacturing jobs back that doesn’t mean they will show up instantly. Yet another example of just how retarded you really are.
Stop floundering you’re embarassing yourself.
and stop lying about what I said, anyone with half a brain knows that any new manufacturing jobs wouldn’t show up in the first 29 days. I said Trump is bringing manufacturing jobs back that doesn’t mean they will show up instantly. Yet another example of just how retarded you really are.
Stop floundering you’re embarassing yourself.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:16goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:00Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 14:56Even the thickest person has to understand that any new manufacturing jobs aren’t gonna show in last months report. You really can’t be that stupid.
Egg prices had their biggest drop since 1984 last month.
So the consumer hasn’t seen any inflation is that what you are saying? But I thought Tariffs meant higher prices?
You know what went up, Tariff revenue, it doubled last month year over year, the US brought in $16.3 billion an Increase of $9 billion, yet no inflation.
Floundering!Make your mind up - it's either too early to tell or it isn't.
You know what went up? energy prices - so tell me how that works with manufacturing inputs?
Trump needs interest rates to come down, and already the market has moved away from June cuts to September, and they've moved away from 3 cuts and priced in 2 cuts. What's the interest on US debt? $1.2trn so about £100bn per month.No you make your mind up, lol.
Says the clown who wants to know where the manufacturing jobs are in the first 29 days, what a cսnt!
Here’s another lesson for you, an increase in wholesale prices doesn’t always translate to on increase in prices to the consumer, sometimes manufacturers eat the increase to remain competitive and operate under smaller margins.
Energy prices always fluctuate, wanna k ow what pushes prices up? More demand. Perhaps we about gonna see a recession after all let alone a depression like you’ve been spouting.
As for the Fed, they are not always right and as Trump said are often late on interest rate cuts. I remember Janet Yellen telling us all that Biden’s inflation was transitory ffs. How fucking wrong was she.
Floundering!
I’ve just said to you that the input prices will tell the story over the next 3 months.
You posted that manufacturing jobs were on the rise, which was a lie.
So you want manufacturers and retailers to make less profit? What do you suppose organisations do when they see declines in profits? What do markets do?
You posted that manufacturing jobs were on the rise, which was a lie.
So you want manufacturers and retailers to make less profit? What do you suppose organisations do when they see declines in profits? What do markets do?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:16goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:00Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 14:56Even the thickest person has to understand that any new manufacturing jobs aren’t gonna show in last months report. You really can’t be that stupid.
Egg prices had their biggest drop since 1984 last month.
So the consumer hasn’t seen any inflation is that what you are saying? But I thought Tariffs meant higher prices?
You know what went up, Tariff revenue, it doubled last month year over year, the US brought in $16.3 billion an Increase of $9 billion, yet no inflation.
Floundering!Make your mind up - it's either too early to tell or it isn't.
You know what went up? energy prices - so tell me how that works with manufacturing inputs?
Trump needs interest rates to come down, and already the market has moved away from June cuts to September, and they've moved away from 3 cuts and priced in 2 cuts. What's the interest on US debt? $1.2trn so about £100bn per month.No you make your mind up, lol.
Says the clown who wants to know where the manufacturing jobs are in the first 29 days, what a cսnt!
Here’s another lesson for you, an increase in wholesale prices doesn’t always translate to on increase in prices to the consumer, sometimes manufacturers eat the increase to remain competitive and operate under smaller margins.
Energy prices always fluctuate, wanna k ow what pushes prices up? More demand. Perhaps we about gonna see a recession after all let alone a depression like you’ve been spouting.
As for the Fed, they are not always right and as Trump said are often late on interest rate cuts. I remember Janet Yellen telling us all that Biden’s inflation was transitory ffs. How fucking wrong was she.
Floundering!
I’ve just said to you that the input prices will tell the story over the next 3 months.
You posted that manufacturing jobs were on the rise, which was a lie.
So you want manufacturers and retailers to make less profit? What do you suppose organisations do when they see declines in profits? What do markets do?
You posted that manufacturing jobs were on the rise, which was a lie.
So you want manufacturers and retailers to make less profit? What do you suppose organisations do when they see declines in profits? What do markets do?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:16goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:00Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 14:56Even the thickest person has to understand that any new manufacturing jobs aren’t gonna show in last months report. You really can’t be that stupid.
Egg prices had their biggest drop since 1984 last month.
So the consumer hasn’t seen any inflation is that what you are saying? But I thought Tariffs meant higher prices?
You know what went up, Tariff revenue, it doubled last month year over year, the US brought in $16.3 billion an Increase of $9 billion, yet no inflation.
Floundering!Make your mind up - it's either too early to tell or it isn't.
You know what went up? energy prices - so tell me how that works with manufacturing inputs?
Trump needs interest rates to come down, and already the market has moved away from June cuts to September, and they've moved away from 3 cuts and priced in 2 cuts. What's the interest on US debt? $1.2trn so about £100bn per month.No you make your mind up, lol.
Says the clown who wants to know where the manufacturing jobs are in the first 29 days, what a cսnt!
Here’s another lesson for you, an increase in wholesale prices doesn’t always translate to on increase in prices to the consumer, sometimes manufacturers eat the increase to remain competitive and operate under smaller margins.
Energy prices always fluctuate, wanna k ow what pushes prices up? More demand. Perhaps we about gonna see a recession after all let alone a depression like you’ve been spouting.
As for the Fed, they are not always right and as Trump said are often late on interest rate cuts. I remember Janet Yellen telling us all that Biden’s inflation was transitory ffs. How fucking wrong was she.
Floundering!
* correction
perhaps we’re not gonna see a recession after all
perhaps we’re not gonna see a recession after all
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 15:00Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 14:56goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 14:41It was your claim that manufacturing jobs were on the up, all i did was point out you were wrong.
Inflation actually went up month on month, not down. The producer prices out on thursday are a more telling read for forward prices but will be skewed by the pull forward of inventory purchases pre-tariffs.Even the thickest person has to understand that any new manufacturing jobs aren’t gonna show in last months report. You really can’t be that stupid.
Egg prices had their biggest drop since 1984 last month.
So the consumer hasn’t seen any inflation is that what you are saying? But I thought Tariffs meant higher prices?
You know what went up, Tariff revenue, it doubled last month year over year, the US brought in $16.3 billion an Increase of $9 billion, yet no inflation.
Floundering!Make your mind up - it's either too early to tell or it isn't.
You know what went up? energy prices - so tell me how that works with manufacturing inputs?
Trump needs interest rates to come down, and already the market has moved away from June cuts to September, and they've moved away from 3 cuts and priced in 2 cuts. What's the interest on US debt? $1.2trn so about £100bn per month.
No you make your mind up, lol.
Says the clown who wants to know where the manufacturing jobs are in the first 29 days, what a cսnt!
Here’s another lesson for you, an increase in wholesale prices doesn’t always translate to on increase in prices to the consumer, sometimes manufacturers eat the increase to remain competitive and operate under smaller margins.
Energy prices always fluctuate, wanna k ow what pushes prices up? More demand. Perhaps we about gonna see a recession after all let alone a depression like you’ve been spouting.
As for the Fed, they are not always right and as Trump said are often late on interest rate cuts. I remember Janet Yellen telling us all that Biden’s inflation was transitory ffs. How fucking wrong was she.
Floundering!
Says the clown who wants to know where the manufacturing jobs are in the first 29 days, what a cսnt!
Here’s another lesson for you, an increase in wholesale prices doesn’t always translate to on increase in prices to the consumer, sometimes manufacturers eat the increase to remain competitive and operate under smaller margins.
Energy prices always fluctuate, wanna k ow what pushes prices up? More demand. Perhaps we about gonna see a recession after all let alone a depression like you’ve been spouting.
As for the Fed, they are not always right and as Trump said are often late on interest rate cuts. I remember Janet Yellen telling us all that Biden’s inflation was transitory ffs. How fucking wrong was she.
Floundering!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 14:56goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 14:41Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 14:35“It isn’t growth.” What a doughnut! Tariffs kicked in on April 2nd. I know Trump is getting shit done but he doesn’t have a magic wand you idiot.
This report was for April 2025 Job numbers. You really expect the new Jobs to show in month 1? You really are too stupid to debate.
Inflation numbers came in low again today, lowest since Feb 2021, 2.3 %, getting close to the feds 2% target rate. Something Biden could do nothing about. What happened to all this inflation you’ve been banging on about ?
Now don’t use the old It’s too early to see inflation on Tariffs after talking bollox about the jobs numbers.
As for China opening up its markets, we will see what happens. Trump has all the cards, As I said, China either gives concessions or tariffs shoot back up again which will basically cut them off from the US consumer, something they simply can’t afford, even if they have to pay 10% Tariffs.
You really are clueless.It was your claim that manufacturing jobs were on the up, all i did was point out you were wrong.
Inflation actually went up month on month, not down. The producer prices out on thursday are a more telling read for forward prices but will be skewed by the pull forward of inventory purchases pre-tariffs.Even the thickest person has to understand that any new manufacturing jobs aren’t gonna show in last months report. You really can’t be that stupid.
Egg prices had their biggest drop since 1984 last month.
So the consumer hasn’t seen any inflation is that what you are saying? But I thought Tariffs meant higher prices?
You know what went up, Tariff revenue, it doubled last month year over year, the US brought in $16.3 billion an Increase of $9 billion, yet no inflation.
Floundering!
Make your mind up - it's either too early to tell or it isn't.
You know what went up? energy prices - so tell me how that works with manufacturing inputs?
Trump needs interest rates to come down, and already the market has moved away from June cuts to September, and they've moved away from 3 cuts and priced in 2 cuts. What's the interest on US debt? $1.2trn so about £100bn per month.
You know what went up? energy prices - so tell me how that works with manufacturing inputs?
Trump needs interest rates to come down, and already the market has moved away from June cuts to September, and they've moved away from 3 cuts and priced in 2 cuts. What's the interest on US debt? $1.2trn so about £100bn per month.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 14:41Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 14:35“It isn’t growth.” What a doughnut! Tariffs kicked in on April 2nd. I know Trump is getting shit done but he doesn’t have a magic wand you idiot.
This report was for April 2025 Job numbers. You really expect the new Jobs to show in month 1? You really are too stupid to debate.
Inflation numbers came in low again today, lowest since Feb 2021, 2.3 %, getting close to the feds 2% target rate. Something Biden could do nothing about. What happened to all this inflation you’ve been banging on about ?
Now don’t use the old It’s too early to see inflation on Tariffs after talking bollox about the jobs numbers.
As for China opening up its markets, we will see what happens. Trump has all the cards, As I said, China either gives concessions or tariffs shoot back up again which will basically cut them off from the US consumer, something they simply can’t afford, even if they have to pay 10% Tariffs.
You really are clueless.It was your claim that manufacturing jobs were on the up, all i did was point out you were wrong.
Inflation actually went up month on month, not down. The producer prices out on thursday are a more telling read for forward prices but will be skewed by the pull forward of inventory purchases pre-tariffs.
Even the thickest person has to understand that any new manufacturing jobs aren’t gonna show in last months report. You really can’t be that stupid.
Egg prices had their biggest drop since 1984 last month.
So the consumer hasn’t seen any inflation is that what you are saying? But I thought Tariffs meant higher prices?
You know what went up, Tariff revenue, it doubled last month year over year, the US brought in $16.3 billion an Increase of $9 billion, yet no inflation.
Floundering!
Egg prices had their biggest drop since 1984 last month.
So the consumer hasn’t seen any inflation is that what you are saying? But I thought Tariffs meant higher prices?
You know what went up, Tariff revenue, it doubled last month year over year, the US brought in $16.3 billion an Increase of $9 billion, yet no inflation.
Floundering!
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Nutsin wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 14:35goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 06:35SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 01:31Lol!!!
Remind me of the size of the US manufacturing workforce. What's 1,000 as a percentage? What was the figure for the previous month. I think you mean statistically speaking flat. That's a fact.
Meanwhile non-farm payrolls rose 177,000.The number is factual. I tell you something else it isn’t - it isn’t growth which is what Nutsin claimed was happening.“It isn’t growth.” What a doughnut! Tariffs kicked in on April 2nd. I know Trump is getting shit done but he doesn’t have a magic wand you idiot.
This report was for April 2025 Job numbers. You really expect the new Jobs to show in month 1? You really are too stupid to debate.
Inflation numbers came in low again today, lowest since Feb 2021, 2.3 %, getting close to the feds 2% target rate. Something Biden could do nothing about. What happened to all this inflation you’ve been banging on about ?
Now don’t use the old It’s too early to see inflation on Tariffs after talking bollox about the jobs numbers.
As for China opening up its markets, we will see what happens. Trump has all the cards, As I said, China either gives concessions or tariffs shoot back up again which will basically cut them off from the US consumer, something they simply can’t afford, even if they have to pay 10% Tariffs.
You really are clueless.
It was your claim that manufacturing jobs were on the up, all i did was point out you were wrong.
Inflation actually went up month on month, not down. The producer prices out on thursday are a more telling read for forward prices but will be skewed by the pull forward of inventory purchases pre-tariffs.
Inflation actually went up month on month, not down. The producer prices out on thursday are a more telling read for forward prices but will be skewed by the pull forward of inventory purchases pre-tariffs.
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goose wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 06:35SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 01:31
- latest set of data, US manufacturing lost about 1,000 jobs. That’s a fact.
Lol!!!
Remind me of the size of the US manufacturing workforce. What's 1,000 as a percentage? What was the figure for the previous month. I think you mean statistically speaking flat. That's a fact.
Meanwhile non-farm payrolls rose 177,000.The number is factual. I tell you something else it isn’t - it isn’t growth which is what Nutsin claimed was happening.
“It isn’t growth.” What a doughnut! Tariffs kicked in on April 2nd. I know Trump is getting shit done but he doesn’t have a magic wand you idiot.
This report was for April 2025 Job numbers. You really expect the new Jobs to show in month 1? You really are too stupid to debate.
Inflation numbers came in low again today, lowest since Feb 2021, 2.3 %, getting close to the feds 2% target rate. Something Biden could do nothing about. What happened to all this inflation you’ve been banging on about ?
Now don’t use the old It’s too early to see inflation on Tariffs after talking bollox about the jobs numbers.
As for China opening up its markets, we will see what happens. Trump has all the cards, As I said, China either gives concessions or tariffs shoot back up again which will basically cut them off from the US consumer, something they simply can’t afford, even if they have to pay 10% Tariffs.
You really are clueless.
This report was for April 2025 Job numbers. You really expect the new Jobs to show in month 1? You really are too stupid to debate.
Inflation numbers came in low again today, lowest since Feb 2021, 2.3 %, getting close to the feds 2% target rate. Something Biden could do nothing about. What happened to all this inflation you’ve been banging on about ?
Now don’t use the old It’s too early to see inflation on Tariffs after talking bollox about the jobs numbers.
As for China opening up its markets, we will see what happens. Trump has all the cards, As I said, China either gives concessions or tariffs shoot back up again which will basically cut them off from the US consumer, something they simply can’t afford, even if they have to pay 10% Tariffs.
You really are clueless.
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My point is he's targeting the wrong people. Honest folk instead of illegal ones.
but frankly that seems par for the course for 2 tier tier
paedos? Knife killers? No prison, make space for people tweeting
but frankly that seems par for the course for 2 tier tier
paedos? Knife killers? No prison, make space for people tweeting
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only1billybonds wrote: ↑13 May 2025, 07:52 Starmer is only 'getting tough' because the Reform party did so well in the recent local elections. He is reacting out of fear,not genuine concern.
Cowardly duplicitous cսnt!
Yesterday’s announcement felt like a hasty attempt to win back some momentum from reform.
He’s lost his marbles if he thinks U.K. citizens are suddenly going to want to work in care homes.
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It's impossible for me to listen to Starmer without thinking of Brian Badonde from Fonejacker now.
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Starmer is only 'getting tough' because the Reform party did so well in the recent local elections. He is reacting out of fear,not genuine concern.
Cowardly duplicitous cսnt!
Cowardly duplicitous cսnt!