The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

[Gank]

Joe Biden diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer.

COVID jab.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Joe Biden diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer.

[goose]

Moody's cuts America's pristine credit rating, citing rising debt - https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/mood ... 025-05-16/

 

[goose]

Food prices rose 23.6 % under Biden from 2020-2024, open the link below for all the gory details.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... %20Service

So as you can see Trump has some wiggle room.

Any increases on certain items at Walmart will send more people to Ralphs or Aldi or other alternatives.

The drop in the price in energy will more than compensate for any increase in select items at Walmart also.

Another thing is it’s only a small percentage of goods that are affected so not enough to bring about in major change in Fed policy, especially when you consider any increase in imports is countered by increases in Exports, which affect the Dollar Index.

So before you go getting all giddy on even more propaganda, Understand there are many benefits that come with what Trump is doing that offset and temporary spike to certain goods from China or elsewhere.

Overall don’t be surprised to see the CPI index continue to fall. Which by the way is much lower now than it was when Trump took office.

So because there was inflation under Biden we should just chose to add more by way of of tariffs?

No the CPI isn't lower, its just not growing as fast. Prices are still increasing. 
And do you think Aldi source their products from some magical land that doesn't have tariffs?
Walmart is the market leader with something like 20% of the grocery market - if they say prices are going up then prices are going up.

about a third of what they sell is sourced outside of the US, so no its not a small % of goods.

did you also notice that US manufacturing activity declined for a second month on the spin. production, employment and new all orders all contracted.
motor vehicles and parts production dropped by 1.9%,

Stop majoring in minors you small minded twit.

Are you saying that the US biggest grocery retailer saying prices are going up is a minor? Or that US manufacturing production and employment declining two months on the spin is minor?

No idea what point you are trying to make about taking the dollar off the gold standard 54 years ago.
How about using the tariffs Trump put on washing machines during his first term as an example? "America first" saw US consumers suffer over $1.5bn extra costs for both washer and dryers. The average price went up by 12%.
The tariffs expired in Feb '23 and the prices came back down by approx 13%.

[Nutsin]

Food prices rose 23.6 % under Biden from 2020-2024, open the link below for all the gory details.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... %20Service

So as you can see Trump has some wiggle room.

Any increases on certain items at Walmart will send more people to Ralphs or Aldi or other alternatives.

The drop in the price in energy will more than compensate for any increase in select items at Walmart also.

Another thing is it’s only a small percentage of goods that are affected so not enough to bring about in major change in Fed policy, especially when you consider any increase in imports is countered by increases in Exports, which affect the Dollar Index.

So before you go getting all giddy on even more propaganda, Understand there are many benefits that come with what Trump is doing that offset and temporary spike to certain goods from China or elsewhere.

Overall don’t be surprised to see the CPI index continue to fall. Which by the way is much lower now than it was when Trump took office.

So because there was inflation under Biden we should just chose to add more by way of of tariffs?

No the CPI isn't lower, its just not growing as fast. Prices are still increasing. 
And do you think Aldi source their products from some magical land that doesn't have tariffs?
Walmart is the market leader with something like 20% of the grocery market - if they say prices are going up then prices are going up.

about a third of what they sell is sourced outside of the US, so no its not a small % of goods.

did you also notice that US manufacturing activity declined for a second month on the spin. production, employment and new all orders all contracted.
motor vehicles and parts production dropped by 1.9%,

Stop majoring in minors you small minded twit.

CPI numbers are at 2.3% way down from the 3% they were under Biden. Feds target rate is 2%. You have to have some inflation otherwise you don’t have growth.

Inflation has come down since Trump took office, that’s a FACT.

[Nutsin]

It’s okay Nutsin, you don’t have to answer the question if you don’t like the answer.

I think Walmart are pretty well positioned to talk about prices.

Food prices rose 23.6 % under Biden from 2020-2024, open the link below for all the gory details.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... %20Service

So as you can see Trump has some wiggle room.

Any increases on certain items at Walmart will send more people to Ralphs or Aldi or other alternatives.

The drop in the price in energy will more than compensate for any increase in select items at Walmart also.

Another thing is it’s only a small percentage of goods that are affected so not enough to bring about in major change in Fed policy, especially when you consider any increase in imports is countered by increases in Exports, which affect the Dollar Index.

So before you go getting all giddy on even more propaganda, Understand there are many benefits that come with what Trump is doing that offset and temporary spike to certain goods from China or elsewhere.

Overall don’t be surprised to see the CPI index continue to fall. Which by the way is much lower now than it was when Trump took office.

So because there was inflation under Biden we should just chose to add more by way of of tariffs?

No the CPI isn't lower, its just not growing as fast. Prices are still increasing. 
And do you think Aldi source their products from some magical land that doesn't have tariffs?
Walmart is the market leader with something like 20% of the grocery market - if they say prices are going up then prices are going up.

about a third of what they sell is sourced outside of the US, so no its not a small % of goods.

did you also notice that US manufacturing activity declined for a second month on the spin. production, employment and new all orders all contracted.
motor vehicles and parts production dropped by 1.9%,

Stop majoring in minors you small minded twit.

[Nutsin]

It’s ok goose you don’t have to continue to remind us all that you are a victim who fell for propaganda. Hopefully next time you’ll have learned your lesson.

It’s okay Nutsin, you don’t have to answer the question if you don’t like the answer.

I think Walmart are pretty well positioned to talk about prices.

Food prices rose 23.6 % under Biden from 2020-2024, open the link below for all the gory details.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... %20Service

So as you can see Trump has some wiggle room.

Any increases on certain items at Walmart will send more people to Ralphs or Aldi or other alternatives.

The drop in the price in energy will more than compensate for any increase in select items at Walmart also.

Another thing is it’s only a small percentage of goods that are affected so not enough to bring about in major change in Fed policy, especially when you consider any increase in imports is countered by increases in Exports, which affect the Dollar Index.

So before you go getting all giddy on even more propaganda, Understand there are many benefits that come with what Trump is doing that offset and temporary spike to certain goods from China or elsewhere.

Overall don’t be surprised to see the CPI index continue to fall. Which by the way is much lower now than it was when Trump took office.

 

 

In 1971 President Nixon took the USA off the gold standard that caused some turmoil and uncertainty in the markets, as
iy undermined the US Dollars reserve currency status established by Bretton Woods after WW 2. In 1973 the USA and the Saudis signed an agreement ensuring every barrell of oil was to be sold in US dollars globally and profits to be invested in US Treasuries, giving birth to the Petro Dollar and helping maintain the US Dollar as the worlds reserve currency,Stabilizing the US economy. In return the Saudis would benefit by having protection from the US military as the Middle East was in chaos.
This formed the Trilogy, US with the dominant military, UK banking (Rothschild) and Saudi energy.

Trumps first order of business has been to take care of the UK and Saudi relations to ensure and strengthen the Trilogy alliance moving forward.

One problem holding China back is energy, their own production of oil accounts for approximately 20% of their current demand, They need access to as much oil as they can, especially if they want to continue to grow their economy and bring more people out of poverty. So Trumps trip to the Middle East Isn’t just a photo op. 

This trade war with China is not gonna be without cost but ultimately the benefits of resetting US and global trade will be worth it. Also expect India to come out way ahead in it all too as production moves away from China and in to India.

Still a long way to go but Trump is making the right moves to strengthen the US and its allies at the expense of China, It’s about time.

[goose]

It’s ok goose you don’t have to continue to remind us all that you are a victim who fell for propaganda. Hopefully next time you’ll have learned your lesson.

It’s okay Nutsin, you don’t have to answer the question if you don’t like the answer.

I think Walmart are pretty well positioned to talk about prices.

Food prices rose 23.6 % under Biden from 2020-2024, open the link below for all the gory details.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... %20Service

So as you can see Trump has some wiggle room.

Any increases on certain items at Walmart will send more people to Ralphs or Aldi or other alternatives.

The drop in the price in energy will more than compensate for any increase in select items at Walmart also.

Another thing is it’s only a small percentage of goods that are affected so not enough to bring about in major change in Fed policy, especially when you consider any increase in imports is countered by increases in Exports, which affect the Dollar Index.

So before you go getting all giddy on even more propaganda, Understand there are many benefits that come with what Trump is doing that offset and temporary spike to certain goods from China or elsewhere.

Overall don’t be surprised to see the CPI index continue to fall. Which by the way is much lower now than it was when Trump took office.

So because there was inflation under Biden we should just chose to add more by way of of tariffs?

No the CPI isn't lower, its just not growing as fast. Prices are still increasing. 
And do you think Aldi source their products from some magical land that doesn't have tariffs?
Walmart is the market leader with something like 20% of the grocery market - if they say prices are going up then prices are going up.

about a third of what they sell is sourced outside of the US, so no its not a small % of goods.

did you also notice that US manufacturing activity declined for a second month on the spin. production, employment and new all orders all contracted.
motor vehicles and parts production dropped by 1.9%,

[Nutsin]

No I mean reduction and removal of tariffs.
The only meaningful agreement is with the U.K. China is tbc.

Did you see what Walmart said about prices?

It’s ok goose you don’t have to continue to remind us all that you are a victim who fell for propaganda. Hopefully next time you’ll have learned your lesson.

It’s okay Nutsin, you don’t have to answer the question if you don’t like the answer.

I think Walmart are pretty well positioned to talk about prices.

Food prices rose 23.6 % under Biden from 2020-2024, open the link below for all the gory details.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... %20Service

So as you can see Trump has some wiggle room.

Any increases on certain items at Walmart will send more people to Ralphs or Aldi or other alternatives.

The drop in the price in energy will more than compensate for any increase in select items at Walmart also.

Another thing is it’s only a small percentage of goods that are affected so not enough to bring about in major change in Fed policy, especially when you consider any increase in imports is countered by increases in Exports, which affect the Dollar Index.

So before you go getting all giddy on even more propaganda, Understand there are many benefits that come with what Trump is doing that offset and temporary spike to certain goods from China or elsewhere.

Overall don’t be surprised to see the CPI index continue to fall. Which by the way is much lower now than it was when Trump took office.

[goose]

You mean trade agreements and new investments into the USA because of the threat of Tariffs.

No I mean reduction and removal of tariffs.
The only meaningful agreement is with the U.K. China is tbc.

Did you see what Walmart said about prices?

It’s ok goose you don’t have to continue to remind us all that you are a victim who fell for propaganda. Hopefully next time you’ll have learned your lesson.

It’s okay Nutsin, you don’t have to answer the question if you don’t like the answer.

I think Walmart are pretty well positioned to talk about prices.

[Nutsin]

Yeh it’s funny what the reduction & removal of tariffs will do. 

You mean trade agreements and new investments into the USA because of the threat of Tariffs.

No I mean reduction and removal of tariffs.
The only meaningful agreement is with the U.K. China is tbc.

Did you see what Walmart said about prices?

It’s ok goose you don’t have to continue to remind us all that you are a victim who fell for propaganda. Hopefully next time you’ll have learned your lesson.

[goose]

Yeh it’s funny what the reduction & removal of tariffs will do. 

You mean trade agreements and new investments into the USA because of the threat of Tariffs.

No I mean reduction and removal of tariffs.
The only meaningful agreement is with the U.K. China is tbc.

Did you see what Walmart said about prices?

[Nutsin]

Yeh it’s funny what the reduction & removal of tariffs will do. 

You mean trade agreements and new investments into the USA because of the threat of Tariffs.

[goose]

Yeh it’s funny what the reduction & removal of tariffs will do. 

[Nutsin]

I see all the doom and gloom economists who were calling for a USA recession are all either removing their forecast completely now or dramatically lowering the probability.
No surprise there, I bet most of them were buying while main st investors were selling. 

 

[only1billybonds]

Agree with every word MA. 
It seems the kids/grandkids of the 50/60's immigrants are far more radicalised than the generations that preceeded them. Joys of the Internet I guess.

I know a woman in her 70's who has had to put her husband in a care home at a cost of 7k per month.
Her and her husband worked for 50 odd years, paying thousands into a system that won't help her on account that she is a home owner yet that same system is happily spending 4.5 million quid a WEEK on people who have no legal right to be here. Said it before on here that there was a time when my pride in this country was endless. I now despise what its becoming.

[Swiss.]

Yeah, thank fuck for high quality EU produce like horsemeat used in Lasagne and burger products that were widely distributed and went undetected before consumption. Some are still feeling a horse now since that monumental scandal. 

Nothing wrong with a bit Cheval 

[Massive Attack]

Yeah, thank fuck for high quality EU produce like horsemeat used in Lasagne and burger products that were widely distributed and went undetected before consumption. Some are still feeling a horse now since that monumental scandal. 

[Swiss.]

New US trade deal will mean we can buy cheap unregulated goods from the US to replace the quality regulated imports we used to get from the EU.

Brexit keeps giving. 

[Westside]

If you're in your 40,s or younger then good luck getting a state pension in the UK at 67 or whatever the age is now, maybe 70 in the not-too-distant future, saw its about £12,000 quid a year, which TBH is barely enough to survive on and about half what it is in Australia or NZ, mind you compared to the UK these countries have far fewer people on benefits or hordes of illegal immigrants to look after.

UK, dogs etc

Single person annual state pension in Australia Aus $29,874, about £15k. NZ state pension NZ $28K annually, about  £12.5k annually. UK state pension currently single person, is £12k. So not a lot of difference. Aus and NZ certainly not twice as high, despite their lack of immigrants and benefit claimants.

[Massive Attack]

Yep, we've willfully allowed it to happen. Well, apart from those of us that have tried to continuously vote against it in more recent years in various ways, in the hope that the penny would eventually drop.

Reform is just about the last chance this Country has of ever getting to grips with it and even then it might be too late. No other choice is now available as all the other Parties have become traitors towards the Country with what they have done and continue to still do under Labour once more. 

[BerlingtonBertie]

Enoch Powell was right.
Vote Labour or Tory they all continue to come in.
You need a new party or a civil war. The public is weak as piss so neither will occur. They will take over without a gun being fired.

[Massive Attack]

Well when you halt further mass arrivals and deal with migration already here within the Country, what you then do is focus on educating them the right way in our schools (not the brainwashing bile currently taught), to appreciate what this Country has afforded them and to give them the skills (like the English language) to then hopefully leads to full time work as a valued member of society. Again, that'll need sensible planning and funding but it's not impossible if managed right and certainly a damn sight better spending the resources that are currently wasted on housing illegal migrants etc.

We've got to now give the current migration a chance to integrate and feel more at part of society and appreciate what they have whilst respecting the Countries values. It won't be a quick turn around, it will probably take a generation to settle it down.

What we don't do is continue to allow endless more arrivals where everything breaks down completely. It does need drastic action to bring the net migration right down to give us a chance. Got to at least try and make the best of it from that point on..

[goose]

Again, completely agree with you on foreign criminals. Something like 16% of prison inmates are not british citizens, which is even more critical now given that we will run out of adult male prison spaces before the end of the year.

it's fucking mental that we are unable to deport them to their 'own' country.

I also agree with you on the numbers being unsustainable financially and in terms of infrstructure.
we are told there is a housing crisis and yet we willingly grow population every year.

my point is more about the social fabric of society, that has changed beyond repair.
if they wanted to, they could fix them numbers (it wouldn't be easy) but they cannot fix the erosion of british 'culture'.