Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

[stubbo-admin]

May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.

Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?

Window this close season comes in two parts:

Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September

Rumoured Outs...most of the squad

Let the "Rumoured In's" commence. 

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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)

Rumoured In

1. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
2. Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
3. Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
4. Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
5. Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
6. Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
7. James Trafford | GK | Burnley
8. Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
9. Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
10. CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
11. Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
12. Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
13. Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
14. Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
15. Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
16. James McAtee | AM | Man City
17. Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
18. Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
19. Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
20. Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
21. Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
22. Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
23. Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
24. Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
25. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
26. Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
27. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
28. Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
29. Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
30. Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
31. Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
32. Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
33. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
34. Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
35. Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
36. Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
37. Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
38. John Victor | GK | Botofogo 
39. Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
40. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
41. Nga Makou | CM | Lille
42. Quinten Timber | CM
43. Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
44. Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs

Rumoured Out

1. Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
2. Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
3. Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
4. Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
5. Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
6. Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
7. Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
8. Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
9. Emerson | LB | Marseille

Confirmed In

1. Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
2. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
3. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
4. Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
5. C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
6. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
7. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
8. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
9. Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)

Confirmed Out

1. Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
2. Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
3. Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
4. Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
5. Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
6. Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
7. Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
8. Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
9. Brad Dolaghan | Released
10. Dondre Abraham | Released
11. Mehmet Halim | Released
12. Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
13. Michail Antonio | Released
14. Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
15. Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
16. Emerson | Marseille | £1m
17. Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
18. Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan

[THUNDERCLINT]

In response to the weekend's dressing room mash up Cock Piss is dropping Fullkrug on Friday for CUNTING FUCKFACE.

Exploring options to out him. That's why the sudden noise regarding Vardy.

[twoleftfeet]

In response to the weekend's dressing room mash up Cock Piss is dropping Fullkrug on Friday for CUNTING FUCKFACE.

Exploring options to out him. That's why the sudden noise regarding Vardy.

[THUNDERCLINT]

In response to the weekend's dressing room mash up Cock Piss is dropping Fullkrug on Friday for CUNTING FUCKFACE.

Exploring options to out him. That's why the sudden noise regarding Vardy.

[El Scorchio]

Have they been largely crap as a group under our last three managers? Yes. There's your answer. 

Amorim was never coming to us. And let's pretend he even wanted to in the first place- Sullivan turned him down in favour of Potter- ergo that still makes all this mess Sullivan's fault, by CHOICE.

 

I think we are going around in circles! The last 3 managers were chosen primarily because they were out of work and not because they were genuinely great managers. They are all management “fixer-uppers” basically.. You somehow think bad management should produce good quality out of a group of players? Strange.

Amorim risked fucking off his current club by taking a meeting mid season with another club because he didnt want to go there at all… yes, that sounds plausible. He took so much shit for that back in Portugal, but he was never going to come?

And yes it;s Sullivan fault, just like some say its Gods fault it rains and there are floods, but you had a choice to put defences up for the floods, cos you know shit happens, and you didnt, So who’s fault is it now? 
Potter knows what he signed up for. He’s had 8 months to figure it out. He has been shit throughout his time here. And the final play is he’s bombing out players to make people feel none of it is his fault. It’s bizarre.

Well, lets see how this miraculously crafted team from 2 transfer windows and 8 months of coaching performs against Chelsea… 

Well we agree it's Sullivan's fault at least. Presiding over an utter shit show, like a once grand country house that's just fallen down around him while he does fuck all to stop it. He's let everything get to this point through years of mismanagement.

[threesixty]

Have they been largely crap as a group under our last three managers? Yes. There's your answer. 

Amorim was never coming to us. And let's pretend he even wanted to in the first place- Sullivan turned him down in favour of Potter- ergo that still makes all this mess Sullivan's fault, by CHOICE.

 

 

I think we are going around in circles! The last 3 managers were chosen primarily because they were out of work and not because they were genuinely great managers. They are all management “fixer-uppers” basically.. You somehow think bad management should produce good quality out of a group of players? Strange.

Amorim risked fucking off his current club by taking a meeting mid season with another club because he didnt want to go there at all… yes, that sounds plausible. He took so much shit for that back in Portugal, but he was never going to come?

And yes it;s Sullivan fault, just like some say its Gods fault it rains and there are floods, but you had a choice to put defences up for the floods, cos you know shit happens, and you didnt, So who’s fault is it now? 
Potter knows what he signed up for. He’s had 8 months to figure it out. He has been shit throughout his time here. And the final play is he’s bombing out players to make people feel none of it is his fault. It’s bizarre.

Well, lets see how this miraculously crafted team from 2 transfer windows and 8 months of coaching performs against Chelsea… 

[Massive Attack]

I'll be happy to see the back of the disciplinary liability. Like Rodriguez, Alvarez just aint cut out for the high octane Premier League. Both have offered us next to fuck all from Midfield.

[El Scorchio]

 

100% agree.
Alvarez is a much better player than both Irving and Guido and should be the one we keep.
I honestly think that Alvaraz works well in a better team.
A midfield 3 of Paqueta, Alvarez and another top quality midfielder would work for me.

Trouble is Alvarez just hasn't wanted to be here for months. I don't think he ever had any intention of staying past this transfer window, so it's a bit futile to be saying we should be keeping him when he clearly doesn't want it and by all accounts hasn't been the most professional in going about it. 

It IS a shame because he is the second best midfielder at the club and he is clearly a good player, but let us be honest he hasn't been one for us for about 18 months, under three different managers. I think he's wanted out ever since we haven't seemed likely to be playing European football and he's not motivated to be here. It's also a shame clubs aren't falling over themselves to take him and a loan to Turkey seems his best solid offer. Would be nice to at least recoup our money on him rather than selling yet another player for a fucking loss.

It's a strange one to change his squad number though and then want out.....unless he saw pre season there is no change, Potter is still shit and he can't be arsed with a relegation battle.  Probs the latter makes sense actually.... 

Yeah both him and Aguerd who both wanted out. Fuck knows. Although I'm disappointed in a talented player who doesn't have the stomach to fight and give his all for the team he's contracted to. A fresh start is probably best all round TBH. Just as long as we don't cock up any deal for him and get shafted yet again.

[Rossal]

Rodriguez has a Saudi offer and theyve turned down bids for Irving.  Getting those deals done would bring in more £ than the Alvarez loan fee and we would be left with the best midfielder of the above mentioned group. 

 

100% agree.
Alvarez is a much better player than both Irving and Guido and should be the one we keep.
I honestly think that Alvaraz works well in a better team.
A midfield 3 of Paqueta, Alvarez and another top quality midfielder would work for me.

Trouble is Alvarez just hasn't wanted to be here for months. I don't think he ever had any intention of staying past this transfer window, so it's a bit futile to be saying we should be keeping him when he clearly doesn't want it and by all accounts hasn't been the most professional in going about it. 

It IS a shame because he is the second best midfielder at the club and he is clearly a good player, but let us be honest he hasn't been one for us for about 18 months, under three different managers. I think he's wanted out ever since we haven't seemed likely to be playing European football and he's not motivated to be here. It's also a shame clubs aren't falling over themselves to take him and a loan to Turkey seems his best solid offer. Would be nice to at least recoup our money on him rather than selling yet another player for a fucking loss.

It's a strange one to change his squad number though and then want out.....unless he saw pre season there is no change, Potter is still shit and he can't be arsed with a relegation battle.  Probs the latter makes sense actually.... 

[Rossal]

I feel a bit sorry for Alvarez, would anyone look good alongside Soucek, JWP or Rodriguez last few seasons? 

It's an impossible task, out of those three they don't run, got no pace. got no bravery on the ball and can't pass for shit. 

Would of liked to see him alongside Potts start of the season, or even right of the back 3 and then can fuck Killman off. 

Ironically Potter' system of wingbacks would be the one system to suit Alvarez best, he can just sit and act as a anchorman to really allow Diouf and AWB to get up the pitch.  But Potter happy to let him go, and keep midfielders who can't run or pass and have zero impact on games. 

Its fucking depressing, Fernandez and Caicedo will murder us friday eve 

[El Scorchio]

Yeah cos there's loads of clubs queuing up to sign them.

Rodriguez has a Saudi offer and theyve turned down bids for Irving.  Getting those deals done would bring in more £ than the Alvarez loan fee and we would be left with the best midfielder of the above mentioned group. 

 

100% agree.
Alvarez is a much better player than both Irving and Guido and should be the one we keep.
I honestly think that Alvaraz works well in a better team.
A midfield 3 of Paqueta, Alvarez and another top quality midfielder would work for me.

Trouble is Alvarez just hasn't wanted to be here for months. I don't think he ever had any intention of staying past this transfer window, so it's a bit futile to be saying we should be keeping him when he clearly doesn't want it and by all accounts hasn't been the most professional in going about it. 

It IS a shame because he is the second best midfielder at the club and he is clearly a good player, but let us be honest he hasn't been one for us for about 18 months, under three different managers. I think he's wanted out ever since we haven't seemed likely to be playing European football and he's not motivated to be here. It's also a shame clubs aren't falling over themselves to take him and a loan to Turkey seems his best solid offer. Would be nice to at least recoup our money on him rather than selling yet another player for a fucking loss.

[scott_d]

No idea why we thinking loaning out Alvarez makes any sense whatsoever.  Get Soucek, JWP, Rodriguez and Irving out the door before Alvarez on a poxy loan no? 



 

Yeah cos there's loads of clubs queuing up to sign them.

Rodriguez has a Saudi offer and theyve turned down bids for Irving.  Getting those deals done would bring in more £ than the Alvarez loan fee and we would be left with the best midfielder of the above mentioned group. 

 

 

100% agree.
Alvarez is a much better player than both Irving and Guido and should be the one we keep.
I honestly think that Alvaraz works well in a better team.
A midfield 3 of Paqueta, Alvarez and another top quality midfielder would work for me.

[El Scorchio]

 

It’s weird that all these players have been labelled “Moyes” players as if they are some “skill challenged” players not capable of playing any other type of football. 

Emerson has played for Chelsea, Italy national team and won every trophy available. 
Soucek, Czech captain, different player in international tournaments. 
Paqueta , braziilain star player. 
Alvarez: Mexican captain , player of South American tournament 
agurerd - one of the best defenders in la Liga last year. 

etc etc. 
all these players have played in passing and attacking sides. They can all play multiple styles of football. That’s why they are professional players on around 100 bags a week. 

its their coach who tells them how to play in that team. And they follow the instructions as close as they can. 

the idea that they can’t adapt is just laughable. Alvarez and kudus were at Ajax. One of the most attacking passing sides in world football!

as for the managers. Sullivan doesn’t want to pay compensation. That’s all it is. So he gets out of work managers who are DESPERATE to get a job in the PL. which is probably why they agree to his stupid behaviour.
But come on, you think he couldn’t have got Glasner? He got Pelligrini who had won a title. Sullivan can get anyone to manage this club. He has the money. He just likes arse kissers who need a job, that’s all. 

 

Well they clearly aren't, because they are crap at it aren't they. You even just said 'as close as they can.' which is clearly not very close, particularly in midfield which is why we're so off the pace.
Yes individually they are all good player of course but they just can't play together in this system in the roles they need to play. It's not rocket science. Man U had the exact same problem as we do, last season.

So we've got world class managers banging on Sullivan's door and he's turning them down in favour of crap because he's too cheap? Not buying that. If you can furnish me some examples of world class managers begging to come to us last season, that would be great. No-one is banging down our door. Pellegrini was in China and came for the money. But as you say Sullivan does love a cheap option and he's fully in charge so it's 100% squarely on him the last two managerial appointments, ergo this mess is entirely his fault and as of this moment he's not doing what he needs to to dig us out of it. Get in those two midfielders we need and that's a step.

 

I don’t understand how you can form the opinion that the players are crap when they have evidence of performing well under different managers. How does that make any sense?
When Moyes came in a second time did he get a whole new load of players in to reach 6th in the league? Or did he use what he had, devised a system that worked for what he had and executed? 

If the players play crap for a manager it’s either the manager cant get their instruction across or cant motivate the player. Either way it’s ALWAYS the managers fault. Thats the job.

As for PL managers, the very fact that Amorim even met with us shows you that top rated European managers will consider West Ham. This is the most coveted league in the world for most players and coaches. The reality is that good managers ARE IN JOBS! its like trying to get a good builder, you don’t employ the one sitting around, you wait for the one thats always in work because they are the good ones.

Because Sullivan/Brady do not want to pay compensation they simply remove most of the good available managers from joining West Ham. Thats why we leap from shit manager to shit manager. It’s like we are the only club that wants to get “rehab” managers. It’s crazy.

But anyways, you can believe what you want. It just becomes a bit delusional in my opinion when we’ve had another 8 months of bollocks and we can all see it with our own eyes.

Have they been largely crap as a group under our last three managers? Yes. There's your answer. 

Amorim was never coming to us. And let's pretend he even wanted to in the first place- Sullivan turned him down in favour of Potter- ergo that still makes all this mess Sullivan's fault, by CHOICE.

[El Scorchio]

In all fairness I'd want a guarantee someone was coming in before I allowed my already shit midfield to become even shitter.

[Lee Trundle]

It's interesting and notable that the Club are pumping Steinberg relentlessly with Transfer info since the Sunderland humiliation leading up to the 1st Home match against Chelsea. They are flapping big time to try and keep things positive, when all the facts scream the opposite. I reckon Bradys soiled at least 5 pairs of knickers since Saturday night. 

I wish Steinberg acted like a proper journalist, and asked Sullivan how he was going to pay £57m for Duran back in January, if we're supposedly so skint now.

He's become a bit of a lacky for them.

[dealcanvey]

Palace close to agreeing a deal for el Khannouss. 32m. 

[threesixty]

Every manager does need their own squad or at least some significant update to it when the players he inherits aren't capable of doing the owner has brought said manager in to do. The reason why so many managers can slot in quite nicely is their owners have put together a system of which the manager is a part, picked to fit what the club is trying to do to ensure continuity of style and success. We are just drunkenly lurching all over the place with our last three managers wildly differing in terms of how they want to try and achieve success on the pitch. This requires a change in personnel each time which is simply not happening here. Half the squad are Moyes players incapable of playing how Lop or Potter want. This is a huge problem and requires backing financially to address- far more than has been made available. It's 100% not a lie, it's just another indication of how badly West Ham are run from boardroom level downward.

If managers are begging for Premier league roles, then how come a plethora of 'better' managers didn't fall over themselves for the job after Moyes or Lop? How come we don't just have the world's best 20 coaches plying their trade here? How come Moyes is employed here? Scott Parker, Keith Andrews? Not to mention recent managers like Dyche or multiple failures like Lampard? That's just a nonsense statement. It also stands to reason then that if Potter is that bad why did we employ him and not one of the world class managers knocking Sullivan's door down? If the answer is because he's cheap, then that's on Sullivan once again for wrecking our club.

As for saying Sullivan isn't lying to anyone... come on.

 

It’s weird that all these players have been labelled “Moyes” players as if they are some “skill challenged” players not capable of playing any other type of football. 

Emerson has played for Chelsea, Italy national team and won every trophy available. 
Soucek, Czech captain, different player in international tournaments. 
Paqueta , braziilain star player. 
Alvarez: Mexican captain , player of South American tournament 
agurerd - one of the best defenders in la Liga last year. 

etc etc. 
all these players have played in passing and attacking sides. They can all play multiple styles of football. That’s why they are professional players on around 100 bags a week. 

its their coach who tells them how to play in that team. And they follow the instructions as close as they can. 

the idea that they can’t adapt is just laughable. Alvarez and kudus were at Ajax. One of the most attacking passing sides in world football!

as for the managers. Sullivan doesn’t want to pay compensation. That’s all it is. So he gets out of work managers who are DESPERATE to get a job in the PL. which is probably why they agree to his stupid behaviour.
But come on, you think he couldn’t have got Glasner? He got Pelligrini who had won a title. Sullivan can get anyone to manage this club. He has the money. He just likes arse kissers who need a job, that’s all. 

 

Well they clearly aren't, because they are crap at it aren't they. You even just said 'as close as they can.' which is clearly not very close, particularly in midfield which is why we're so off the pace.
Yes individually they are all good player of course but they just can't play together in this system in the roles they need to play. It's not rocket science. Man U had the exact same problem as we do, last season.

So we've got world class managers banging on Sullivan's door and he's turning them down in favour of crap because he's too cheap? Not buying that. If you can furnish me some examples of world class managers begging to come to us last season, that would be great. No-one is banging down our door. Pellegrini was in China and came for the money. But as you say Sullivan does love a cheap option and he's fully in charge so it's 100% squarely on him the last two managerial appointments, ergo this mess is entirely his fault and as of this moment he's not doing what he needs to to dig us out of it. Get in those two midfielders we need and that's a step.

 

 

I don’t understand how you can form the opinion that the players are crap when they have evidence of performing well under different managers. How does that make any sense?
When Moyes came in a second time did he get a whole new load of players in to reach 6th in the league? Or did he use what he had, devised a system that worked for what he had and executed? 

If the players play crap for a manager it’s either the manager cant get their instruction across or cant motivate the player. Either way it’s ALWAYS the managers fault. Thats the job.

As for PL managers, the very fact that Amorim even met with us shows you that top rated European managers will consider West Ham. This is the most coveted league in the world for most players and coaches. The reality is that good managers ARE IN JOBS! its like trying to get a good builder, you don’t employ the one sitting around, you wait for the one thats always in work because they are the good ones.

Because Sullivan/Brady do not want to pay compensation they simply remove most of the good available managers from joining West Ham. Thats why we leap from shit manager to shit manager. It’s like we are the only club that wants to get “rehab” managers. It’s crazy.

But anyways, you can believe what you want. It just becomes a bit delusional in my opinion when we’ve had another 8 months of bollocks and we can all see it with our own eyes.

[Rossal]

Sullivan is just shocking with transfers. He can't buy anyone for shit.  Brighton, Bournemouth, Forest, Sunderland and Brighton all out perform us drastically in purchasing. 

Then it is the same for selling, yes they are shit but there is always a buyer if you have good negociators at the club or work with good agents. 

Some crazy good deals for the selling clubs recently 

Callum Doyle Man City to Wrexham £8m 
Ben Doak Liverpool to Bournemouth £25m 
Dango Ouattra  Bourenmouth to Brentford £42m 
Burnley spent £45m on Broja and Uchoweku 

So you can't say its unrealistic to get a decent fee for Alvarez, Emerson and Soucek. Other clubs would have got them out the door but as we are an absolute circus theyre all left here and we're having to get the best player out on a shit deal to then go get Brownhill in on a free. 

[Massive Attack]

People have to acknowledge that Potter will be having a significant say in the make-up of the Squad. He is a Yes Man who will do as he's told when they see fit but outside of that, Potter will also be having a heavy influence which is why I often mention prioritising appropriately. And to see Rodriguez at the heart of our Team under Potter even though there's long been links of credible moves away to Saudi and the like, it gives me the impression he doesn't want rid of him. 

"And Guides could you please make this one out to my nephew Samuel C.OY.I. By the way, you're in again Friday night buddy just between you and I. Oh and how's Lionel, maybe Facetime later?"  

[El Scorchio]

How comes Rodriguez hasn't been moved on yet for that reported £6M? I've not followed it closely but please don't let turn out it's the Manager that's put a stop to it having started him in the opening game.

I was just musing the same with Irving. I can only think that they aren't allowed to go until replacements have come in. I know Guido is little more than a body, but if Alvarez goes, then Guido and Irving, that leaves us so fucking bare. (Only Paqueta, Potts, JWP and Soucek?) It makes sense as neither is that expensive to just hold on, on the offchance that no-one comes in, or after they go it gives selling teams the opportunity to absolutely hose us even more for players.

If that's it, I get it. 

[El Scorchio]

Jacob Steinburg reckons 

- new bid for fernandes 
- bid for Castaro at Barca but seemed unlikely 
- loan bid went in for Santos at Chelsea, player not interested 

It's amazing how we aren't brassic when we bid for players we know we won't get. I don't get why we didnt go in for Dewsbury-Hall for £30m

No idea why we thinking loaning out Alvarez makes any sense whatsoever.  Get Soucek, JWP, Rodriguez and Irving out the door before Alvarez on a poxy loan no? 

We are an absoulte mess, tough first 4/5 fixtures of which we will probs get 1 point max and then we are chasing out tails already. Sullivan is a cretin, always rushing round last few weeks of the window once the season has already started rather than getting the names through the door and ready to go first game. 

Forest in a week after finding out about the court case have achieved more than we have all summer. 

I dont believe any of these bullshit made up bids have been made, all just a smokescreen to avoid friday night being a toxic cauldron before the game has started. 

It will be Brownhill on a free or surely he would of lined something up by now.  Maybe then a loan castoff like Pellegrini at Roma 

Didnt expect much this window but its looking even more bleak than i expected.  We are so shit at both buying and selling players. 

 

 

Flogging JWP actually hurts PRS. To add no-one is taking him off our hands for anything like the fee or wages he's on. We would have to swallow yet another big loss. I doubt even Southampton would take him as part payment for Fernandes. His skillset just isn't what's needed in the game now for CM at a top level. It's moved on. I don't know why there's stalling over Irving. Wonder if it just won't be sanctioned until new players come in which is fair enough. Letting him go does fuck all financially for us anyway. Guido and Soucek? Clearly no takers. This is the trouble. Our squad is so poor no-one wants to buy any of our players. They've all been for sale all summer along with Emerson and not a bite. It's indicative of why we are so poor on the field. The players are not up to scratch.

[Massive Attack]

How comes Rodriguez hasn't been moved on yet for that reported £6M? I've not followed it closely but please don't let turn out it's the Manager that's put a stop to it having started him in the opening game.

[Rossal]

No idea why we thinking loaning out Alvarez makes any sense whatsoever.  Get Soucek, JWP, Rodriguez and Irving out the door before Alvarez on a poxy loan no? 

 

Yeah cos there's loads of clubs queuing up to sign them.

Rodriguez has a Saudi offer and theyve turned down bids for Irving.  Getting those deals done would bring in more £ than the Alvarez loan fee and we would be left with the best midfielder of the above mentioned group. 

[El Scorchio]

 

Sullivan isn’t lying to anyone. They know what he’s about. They come into this job with their eyes open. I think you don’t get that there are only 20 PL management jobs in the world. This is the top league in the world. Managers are BEGGING for these roles. Only decorated managers like Conte are telling PL clubs to fuck off. 

also, Newcastle didn’t spend much money at all when they got Howe. He coached his way out of the crap. Didn’t spend much at all. 

And can we please stop saying every manager “needs their own squad”. It’s utter bollocks. It’s become some fashion statement. No other leagues think like that. It’s wrong. In other countries they have DOF’s mostly so no coach gets to have their own players before they do anything useful. It’s just a lie. 
. 

Every manager does need their own squad or at least some significant update to it when the players he inherits aren't capable of doing the owner has brought said manager in to do. The reason why so many managers can slot in quite nicely is their owners have put together a system of which the manager is a part, picked to fit what the club is trying to do to ensure continuity of style and success. We are just drunkenly lurching all over the place with our last three managers wildly differing in terms of how they want to try and achieve success on the pitch. This requires a change in personnel each time which is simply not happening here. Half the squad are Moyes players incapable of playing how Lop or Potter want. This is a huge problem and requires backing financially to address- far more than has been made available. It's 100% not a lie, it's just another indication of how badly West Ham are run from boardroom level downward.

If managers are begging for Premier league roles, then how come a plethora of 'better' managers didn't fall over themselves for the job after Moyes or Lop? How come we don't just have the world's best 20 coaches plying their trade here? How come Moyes is employed here? Scott Parker, Keith Andrews? Not to mention recent managers like Dyche or multiple failures like Lampard? That's just a nonsense statement. It also stands to reason then that if Potter is that bad why did we employ him and not one of the world class managers knocking Sullivan's door down? If the answer is because he's cheap, then that's on Sullivan once again for wrecking our club.

As for saying Sullivan isn't lying to anyone... come on.

 

It’s weird that all these players have been labelled “Moyes” players as if they are some “skill challenged” players not capable of playing any other type of football. 

Emerson has played for Chelsea, Italy national team and won every trophy available. 
Soucek, Czech captain, different player in international tournaments. 
Paqueta , braziilain star player. 
Alvarez: Mexican captain , player of South American tournament 
agurerd - one of the best defenders in la Liga last year. 

etc etc. 
all these players have played in passing and attacking sides. They can all play multiple styles of football. That’s why they are professional players on around 100 bags a week. 

its their coach who tells them how to play in that team. And they follow the instructions as close as they can. 

the idea that they can’t adapt is just laughable. Alvarez and kudus were at Ajax. One of the most attacking passing sides in world football!

as for the managers. Sullivan doesn’t want to pay compensation. That’s all it is. So he gets out of work managers who are DESPERATE to get a job in the PL. which is probably why they agree to his stupid behaviour.
But come on, you think he couldn’t have got Glasner? He got Pelligrini who had won a title. Sullivan can get anyone to manage this club. He has the money. He just likes arse kissers who need a job, that’s all. 

 

 

Well they clearly aren't, because they are crap at it aren't they. You even just said 'as close as they can.' which is clearly not very close, particularly in midfield which is why we're so off the pace.
Yes individually they are all good player of course but they just can't play together in this system in the roles they need to play. It's not rocket science. Man U had the exact same problem as we do, last season.

So we've got world class managers banging on Sullivan's door and he's turning them down in favour of crap because he's too cheap? Not buying that. If you can furnish me some examples of world class managers begging to come to us last season, that would be great. No-one is banging down our door. Pellegrini was in China and came for the money. But as you say Sullivan does love a cheap option and he's fully in charge so it's 100% squarely on him the last two managerial appointments, ergo this mess is entirely his fault and as of this moment he's not doing what he needs to to dig us out of it. Get in those two midfielders we need and that's a step.

[Massive Attack]

No idea why we thinking loaning out Alvarez makes any sense whatsoever.  Get Soucek, JWP, Rodriguez and Irving out the door before Alvarez on a poxy loan no? 

 

Yeah cos there's loads of clubs queuing up to sign them.

How did the 2nd Trophy Parade go the other week?

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No idea why we thinking loaning out Alvarez makes any sense whatsoever.  Get Soucek, JWP, Rodriguez and Irving out the door before Alvarez on a poxy loan no? 
 

Yeah cos there's loads of clubs queuing up to sign them.