The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Lee Trundle]

If you think this march is great or achieved anything, give your head a wobble.

The march wasn't intend to achieve anything with the likes of you, They son.

[One Sunny Day]

You know,  my feelings watching the march, as a left winger who can disagree with but respect moderate right wingers-
It was supposed to be about unity but I saw the opposite of that. A load of shouty extremist Stella drinkers looking for a ruck,  who hate people who opposed their views, along with a load of fairly normal types who had fallen for all the flag waving and blaming everything on immigrants.
The truth is that if Farage and company get in and by some miracle get rid of all the asylum seekers, in their first couple of weeks, the money they will save is miniscule and not nearly enough to sort out the real problems that matter, you know, housing, the NHS, the cost of living and education. Those are the things that are in crisis and, like I'm sure most here want, are the priorities. Unfortunately there isn't a quick fix and starting on immigrants and Muslims isn't going to help matters.
For a march, supposedly about making Britain great again, it's laughable, if it wasn't so serious, to see a crowd cheering on a live stream from a foreigner, Elon Musk, trying to incite civil war in this country. Also ridiculous seeing people moaning about lefties celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder, cheering a guy directly calling for the assasination of Kier Starmer, a guy who has directly condemned and mourned his killing.
If you think this march is great or achieved anything, give your head a wobble.

[Lee Trundle]

Can you point me at the overwhelming media coverage of ‘
the ‘welcome all illegals’ views?


 

https://news.sky.com/video/abbott-calls ... d-13429850

[Sydney_Iron]

Seen all the stuff about Kirk being homophobic, anti Trans etc etc, this clip well and truly kicks that out the park.

[Fauxstralian]

Can you point me at the overwhelming media coverage of ‘
the ‘welcome all illegals’ views?

Jaan
All of Kirk’s views & outpourings have been reported via his podcasts/tiktok/public events etc
Are you saying he has been misrepresented in his views on gays, the role of women, blacks, the intelligence of blacks , the importance of gun ownership & the insignificance of deaths caused etc etc
Appears a bit ironic that he has been killed by a gun loving son of Trump fanatics for not being extreme enough. Despite the killer having a trans ‘room mate’. Who are we supposed to be praying for now?
Right wing Team Kirk or Extreme Right wing Team Robinson
Has Tommy decided yet?
 

[Mike Oxsaw]

I note that (all) the MSM are focussing on "the violence" and trying to play down the size of the march.

It was inevitable that rent-a-mob would turn up and kick things off  - anything to have a pop at plod for them, whatever the occasion. Perfect for a bit of "black flag", too - not that I'm suggesting the state resort to such a thing when it comes to ensuring the safety of our women & children.

I would have expected a far bigger turn out at the "Welcome all illegals" rally, given the media minutes/column inches that part of society generates.

[Mr Anon]

Now they are quoting “FBI sources” so it remains to be seen if this is fake news or not.

Nut it is being reported by more than one source

lol, you were so desperate for the shooter to be trans, looks like you've settled for the next best thing

[Nutsin]

Now they are quoting “FBI sources” so it remains to be seen if this is fake news or not.

Nut it is being reported by more than one source

[Nutsin]

[OK_Guy]

I made an error in my previous post, it was UtK supporters in the Square not the Barcodes, I mistook the video when searching the incident... my humble apologies.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

I take Mr Kirk at his reported comments & beliefs 

 

Yeah. Reported by left wing sources that repeatedly called him fascist, which lead to the words on the bullet casings.

There isn't anything about him that was fascist. He dedicated his life to creating dialogue and not just welcomed opposing views for debate but told those people that they could be front in line to do so. 

[OK_Guy]

You seem very anti free speech there F129
Tommy Cholmondley-Warner won’t be happy with you

The estimate of crowds today appear to be reported as 150,000
Apart from GB News going as high as 1 million
Presume they use the same calculator when trying to estimate their viewing figures

I watched it via YouTube, there was well over 500k at the event, have a look at the ariel-videos of the march (they've been doctored obviously)... the last thing the Establishment want is the 'true number' to be known, the BBC/Guardian stated earlier that the Police estimated it was 100k, then 110k and now 150k.

Same with the violence reported, Police in heavy riot gear charged into people, there was no real reason for it, people were trying to link-up with the Newcastle fans occupying Trafalgar Square (it was rammed with the fat gutted barcodes), the Left/Antifa were not involved (they were sensible as were everyone else)... one old guy got beat-up by five Plod, one kicking in the head, ambulance was called he was in a bad way... don't let the MSN narrative get in the way of actual facts, go look on YouTube.

Before you presume, I think politics is dogshit left or right.

[Fauxstralian]

You seem very anti free speech there F129
Tommy Cholmondley-Warner won’t be happy with you

The estimate of crowds today appear to be reported as 150,000
Apart from GB News going as high as 1 million
Presume they use the same calculator when trying to estimate their viewing figures

[Fauxstralian]

I take Mr Kirk at his reported comments & beliefs 
Many of which are deeply unpleasant in regards to race, homophobia & women

This Tyler Robinson seems an interesting character with his Mormon Republican gun loving Trump supporting background 
Any more word on his trans roommate Mr Lance Twiggs?
Is Mr the correct designation in right wing circles ?

[F 129 Row66]

If 100s of thousands of people are demonstrating, why are the far left fascist groups like Antifa allowed to have a counter demonstration. they should be politely told to fuck off and then turn water canons and batons on them. They only ever want violent confrontation, are only ever there for a good time, provide no useful service to society, and as far as being anti-racist they  are anti semitic hypocrites. They represent nobody.

[BRANDED]

Unheard gets it more than most

There are two possible scenarios. The first is that these people are not serious, and that this is all the empty performance of callous children. There is much evidence for this hypothesis: the loudest calls for political violence, displayed on social media, come from those who would be more obviously the victims than the perpetrators of the outcome they demand: the physically weak, the mentally fragile, the beneficiaries of a stable society they proclaim the wish to overturn. Just as with the deification of Luigi Mangione, the assassin whose most prominent journalistic groupie is a woman of indeterminate age frightened to go outside without a Covid mask, I have seen calls for political violence coming from a paraplegic woman unlikely herself to be manning checkpoints late at night or digging graves for her vanquished enemies. The bloodcurdling rhetoric of these silly and unworldly people, demanding further assassinations on Bluesky as if ordering food from a delivery app, is discordantly removed from the reality of the political violence that would surely cull them first. The spectacle is so absurd that it seems almost demeaning to take it seriously.

https://unherd.com/2025/09/americas-blo ... fantasies/

 

[Ceasar]

Muhammad was a peodophile

Islam is cancer

Trans is insanity


 

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Personally don’t think the right should be :
racist
homophobic 
misogynist 
fascist 
supporters of Nazi ideals 

Mr Kirk appeared to tick off a few of those 
Doesn’t mean he should be killed though
It does appear his murder was because he didn’t tick off ALL of those to the satisfaction of the Mormon gun lover from a family of Trump supporters


 

 

 

He was none of those things. Again you are parroting a desperate left wing narrative as fact, which makes zero sense.

Trying to attribute blame on Nick Fuentes and his followers is just another perfect example of the dangerous rhetoric that is out of control on the left. It doesn’t take two seconds to see which group are celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death and Nick Fuentes isn’t a part of it. 

[BRANDED]

I know a religion that seems to have a lot of support that shows a lot of those traits

"racisthomophobic misogynist fascist supporters of Nazi ideals"

 

These concepts are the luxury of north London accountants not ordinary people.

[Mad Dog]

I know a religion that seems to have a lot of support that shows a lot of those traits

"racisthomophobic misogynist fascist supporters of Nazi ideals"
 

[Fauxstralian]

Personally don’t think the right should be :
racist
homophobic 
misogynist 
fascist 
supporters of Nazi ideals 

Mr Kirk appeared to tick off a few of those 
Doesn’t mean he should be killed though
It does appear his murder was because he didn’t tick off ALL of those to the satisfaction of the Mormon gun lover from a family of Trump supporters
 

[BRANDED]

Come to a conclusion over the last couple of days about the difference between thr right and left.  The right think the lefties are deluded crazed idiots.  The left think the right are evil scum who are vile and shouldnt be allowed to have a difference of opinion.  Quick to label others as nazis and cancel their livelihoods.  The amount of vitriol from them screaming at people and having histrionics is shocking. 

And social media just feeds both growing fat off the conflict therefore clicks and profits.

Social media has a lot to answer for.  The echo chambers and radicalisation at both ends are severely dangerous.  Neither side willing to listen to the other.  So many stories of people refusing to engage with family over a difference of politics.

For all the continuous repetititive bickering and arguing and pathetic name calling on here and despite nobody even conceding points a little, people are at least engaging in a difference of opinion on here

 

Diversity is obviously not a strength

[Mike Oxsaw]

So, then. 110,000 would rather have our women & children's safety placed in national importance above 5,000 who would rather hand (other people's) money out to those who don't deserve it, let alone have earned it.

A tad more comprehensive that the Brexit result, but guaranteed which side will get all the positive media coverage and which side will be portrayed as selfish, evil bastards.

[Mad Dog]

Come to a conclusion over the last couple of days about the difference between thr right and left.  The right think the lefties are deluded crazed idiots.  The left think the right are evil scum who are vile and shouldnt be allowed to have a difference of opinion.  Quick to label others as nazis and cancel their livelihoods.  The amount of vitriol from them screaming at people and having histrionics is shocking. 

And social media just feeds both growing fat off the conflict therefore clicks and profits.

Social media has a lot to answer for.  The echo chambers and radicalisation at both ends are severely dangerous.  Neither side willing to listen to the other.  So many stories of people refusing to engage with family over a difference of politics.

For all the continuous repetititive bickering and arguing and pathetic name calling on here and despite nobody even conceding points a little, people are at least engaging in a difference of opinion on here
 

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Keep up
Tyler Robinson killed Kirk because he wasn’t right wing enough 

I see the effects of division and where it will lead
Unfortunately the President of the United States doesn’t care about driving unity in the nation 
That is an extremely dangerous position

 

 

 It’s incredible that you would double down having criticised the speculation on right, by parroting the desperate narrative of people on the left. 

It’s also amazing you double down on Trump. When the left  rioted for months over a dead junkie criminal, yet there will be absolutely no equivalent of this from the right.