The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[WHU(Exeter)]

Faux, angry middle aged men?

You need to add women to that sentence.

And it’s in our lifetimes that the country has been allowed, encouraged even, to go to pot, hence that anger. Particularly as legitimate concerns expressed for years have been shouted down and ignored, and now when the situation is untenable those same concerns are all of a sudden legitimate things that need tackling according to our political classes. The same political classes that shut down those concerns for the best part of three decades.

If it was apathetic middle aged men and women, then that really would be time to turn the lights off.

[WHU(Exeter)]

Billy, nope the BBC can’t help themselves you’re right.

They’re like a particularly ‘Right on’ HR department running a public funded broadcasting company. If anyone wanted to look at the crux of what the fucking hell has gone wrong in the last 30 years, then the BBC would be a great starting point. 

[goose]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v80n7mz2jo

this is what Rachel from account’s doesn’t seem to understand.
its the people not working (and getting a 4% rise in benefits) that need to be targeted. You can’t just keep taxing working people.

i wonder how many more people will leave the U.K. because of this?

The government is a PR disaster at the moment.

[only1billybonds]

New York have a new Mayor. They have voted in a communist Muslim who is quite clearly mad. His proposals include a rent freeze, free bus travel, defending the police and rationalising grocery shops. He also wants to tax the rich (who will flee) to extremes in order to fund his ideas. This will be a disaster for the City but great news for the rest of us as it will show once again that socialism/Communism/leftism never works.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Caught between the flag shaggers & those who say you can’t say Christmas without being arrested
Ironic
Angry middle aged men overload 

Er, no. KCC have asked that flags not be flown from lamp-posts that will also be carrying Christmas lights. They have said that whilst flags and lights can't go on the same poles due to H&S bollocks, there is no question of forcibly removing the flags.

So that's another thing you've made up today.

[Mike Oxsaw]

I'm interested to know why the plastic Aussie, champagne communist Sven refers to Reform and right wing citizens as "gammons".

To me gammon is a racist slur given it's a pejorative term expressly targeted as white citizens with a right wing political persuasion.

Care to apologise for your racist slur, Sven?

Care to censor that poster for his use of a racist slur, Mods?

I'm more than happy that the only response people who have differing views to mine is (attempted) personal insults, proving that they have no better solution to offer.

The solution though, needs to be fit for purpose, matching what I want now - today - not what someone thinks I should want now or what I wanted 5/25/50 years ago.

On the politics front, the only party talking along those lines is Reform; they're not perfect but have only had a few years to seek that perfection, unlike the existing political parties, who have had decades, or even centuries, to work out what it is the people (voters) really want.

[only1billybonds]

The BBC just can't stop themselves can they.
Been caught red handed deliberately 'doctoring' footage of Trump to make it look like he as ordering his followers to march and create mayhem at the Capitol. 
Refund the shitshow, shouldn't have to be forced to pay for such a stinking corrupt organisation.

[Come On You Irons]

I'm interested to know why the plastic Aussie, champagne communist Sven refers to Reform and right wing citizens as "gammons".

To me gammon is a racist slur given it's a pejorative term expressly targeted as white citizens with a right wing political persuasion.

Care to apologise for your racist slur, Sven?

Care to censor that poster for his use of a racist slur, Mods?

[BRANDED]

I'd like Reform to cancel all spending and close the fucking shit down.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Not putting up lights 
Thats usually cancelling Christmas in Gammon world isn’t it?

If it was a Labour council you’d be out painting another roundabout 

Putting up Christmas lights or funding a care home.

Yep. I can see why that would be an impossible choice for some.

[Massive Attack]

Not putting up lights 
Thats usually cancelling Christmas in Gammon world isn’t it?



 

Nope. That's definitely not a thing I'm aware of in the UK that Christmas is cancelled if some lights do not go up for any reason.

[Fauxstralian]

Not putting up lights 
Thats usually cancelling Christmas in Gammon world isn’t it?

If it was a Labour council you’d be out painting another roundabout 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Reform have taken over a number of councils
What in their running of those makes you think they would make a competent government?
Any news on a costed economic plan?


 

 

 

Taking power away from the state = which, in reality really dictate what happens in the country - will allow Reform to begin to price what solving many issues will cost.

While the state continue to conduct a policy of civil disobedience (that they would never allow the general population to undertake) nothing will change.

It's the unelected bureaucrats who need nailing, but the unions & do-gooders will never allow that to happen, even if their reticence borders on being traitorous.

[Massive Attack]

Reform have taken over a number of councils
What in their running of those makes you think they would make a competent government?
Any news on a costed economic plan?

 

Reform Councils have proven they can successfully save a shit load of money in a short space of time, whereas Labour have achieved the opposite with taxes set to rise thanks to Reeves incompetency with our finances.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 03972.html

[Massive Attack]

So they haven't cancelled Christmas then?

[Fauxstralian]

Reform have taken over a number of councils
What in their running of those makes you think they would make a competent government?
Any news on a costed economic plan?
 

[Come On You Irons]

This is a shocking government but the Tories weren't much better.

Both sides of the Uniparty are incompetent, lying charlatans.

The Tories consistently promised to get net migration down to the tens of thousands. They lied and did the opposite (increased it to record levels).

Labour promised not to raise income tax, NI or VAT. They lied and did the opposite.

Labour promised to "smash the gangs". They lied and illegal immigration is at record levels.

Vote Reform.

[Fauxstralian]

Caught between the flag shaggers & those who say you can’t say Christmas without being arrested
Ironic
Angry middle aged men overload 

[Massive Attack]

Kent County Council (Reform) cancelling Christmas 

 

How are they cancelling Christmas?

[Lee Trundle]

Kent County Council (Reform) cancelling Christmas 
No Christmas lights going up due to lamp posts covered in flags
Safety issue, innit

Reckon we've got 4 more years of pathetic articles like that to sully Reform, Sven (which you'll lap up).

I don't think it's going to work, though.

[Fauxstralian]

Kent County Council (Reform) cancelling Christmas 
No Christmas lights going up due to lamp posts covered in flags
Safety issue, innit

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Serious question …
All this talk by Rachel from Accounts about low productivity in the UK 
In this modern world of services & finance etc how do they actually calculate productivity given most people don’t work in factories knocking out widgets these days?
With modern technology I imagine most office based people are far more productive than they ever were

I think if you allow half the population to skive from home and the other half to do a four day week for a full week's money, then productivity will drop off a tad.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Serious question …
All this talk by Rachel from Accounts about low productivity in the UK 
In this modern world of services & finance etc how do they actually calculate productivity given most people don’t work in factories knocking out widgets these days?
With modern technology I imagine most office based people are far more productive than they ever were

Very few people actually make anything of worth these days, anything that adds actual wealth to the economy.

The most money seems to be "created" through adding, then pocketing, commission to the little stuff the UK actually creates as it moves through the supply chain from creator to consumer.

[Fauxstralian]

Serious question …
All this talk by Rachel from Accounts about low productivity in the UK 
In this modern world of services & finance etc how do they actually calculate productivity given most people don’t work in factories knocking out widgets these days?
With modern technology I imagine most office based people are far more productive than they ever were

[Mike Oxsaw]

Someone sent me this earlier:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/737105

Not sure if it's real/matters...