Phall Throw 1:23 Tue Jun 11
Euro 2024
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We seem to have an England v Bosnia thread but not an actual Euro 2024 thread so here it is
So, do we realistically think England can win it? On paper we obviously have a very talented squad but I just don't see us going all the way. For me it's "same old" when it comes to England. Breeze the group, favourable draw in last 16 and win then up against far superior opposition in the QFs and out. At best I can see us at the SF stage before being beaten again.
Winners for me:
France, Portugal, Spain
Dark horses:
Germany - even though it's a home tournament they've been in a consolidation period, could go close
Biggest flops:
Scotland - no goals scored
Top goalscorer:
Mbappe
I'm just hoping it's a decent tournament with plenty of decent games that's not ruined by VAR (are they using it?)
consolidation period but could go close
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Hammer and Pickle
3:21 Wed Jun 26
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Tell you what’s been underestimated, it’s Austria, which has been a real breath of fresh air. Love what they’ve brought to the party and it seems after what they did to the Dutch, nobody will be looking forward to playing them.
One that caught the eye was the right-sided full back Stefan Posch. Plays for Bolonya and it may be worth following his fortunes.
As for England, watching that is a chore.
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roltrader
2:13 Wed Jun 26
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................if only we had Kalvin Phillips !
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the coming of gary
2:10 Wed Jun 26
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.. Its not been great. can we take any positives ?
Won one drew two, it's the same record as France, who people aren't writing off
Denmark are still unbeaten. Slovenia are still unbeaten.
A particularly negative group only produced seven goals total - Should play much better against stronger open opposition
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* Clutches at straws *
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El Scorchio
2:06 Wed Jun 26
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Bellingham definitely isn't overrated. He's a great player.
However he has been utter shit, like all the rest of them this tournament.
But they are all just victims of being placed into a shit 'system' with no apparent gameplan. Just rigidly lined up to be compact and then try and get the ball to Saka. Bellingham was on the right wing at times in the second half. It's no wonder he looked lost. We had five central midfielders on the pitch at one point. Southgate is out of ideas and just chucking players on not even in a formation or with a system in mind, just hoping they'd figure it out on the fly.
It's so disappointing given how good most of our players are.
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Side of Ham
1:31 Wed Jun 26
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What players in that squad play for their league side the same way they do for their national side?
Jarrod Bowen that's who.
We should be singing 'No Scotland, We Party' instead it's painful watching these excellent players struggle to adjust to anti football.
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Lee Trundle
1:25 Wed Jun 26
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It takes a huge amount of shitness to have a team containing the best La Liga player, the best Premier League player, and the top goal scorer in Germany, and have them perform like that.
I said right at the start that Southgate would lose us this tournament.
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dealcanvey
12:13 Wed Jun 26
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La Liga player of the year is overrated?
Southgate feels the need for 3 cms with Bellingham as the 10 and Foden out wide.
It's overkill, we just look so disjointed when we play. I cant work out who is meant to be playing where at times.
Foden is fantastic but he wont cause many wing backs an issue on the outside. 10 is also his best position.
Bellingham and Rice can do the job in the middle with Foden as the 10. Then coupleof wingers that can run and cause problems.
Not that we can expect Southgate to ever dare do anything so attacking minded. Blokes a weirdo.
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Massive Attack
12:05 Wed Jun 26
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Is he fuck overrated. Geezers on course for possibly getting a Ballon Dor after being voted La Ligas best player this season.
Southgate has reduced both Foden - Premier Leagues player of the season - and Bellingham as a shadow of themselves the second he calls them up, it's not a coincidence.
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Massive Attack
11:59 Wed Jun 26
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Fully aware of that, although both bang out of for themselves, however the fact remains the other half of the draw is loaded with the better Teams.
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maverick180
11:52 Wed Jun 26
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The problem is that Jude Bellingham is the most overrated player of all time, and the whole team is being built around him
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Side of Ham
11:46 Wed Jun 26
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Southgate’s now in a position of being slaughtered in defeat either way so why not make it entertaining? He can then go off and make another pizza advert…..
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Manuel
11:35 Wed Jun 26
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Massive - We're def in the easier half but it's likely Holland next and then Italy, so hardly a cakewalk.
Maybe he's finally found the right partner for Rice in Mainoo, some said that at the beginning, and we should see more of Palmer now, so 'possibly' better performances to come, but his loyalty to some players is ridiculous really when looking at some of the quality on the bench. Was listening to Dean Ashton earlier, who generally speaks a lot of sense, he said in tournament football if you have two or three poor games then you have to come out no matter who you are, but to be fair to waistcoat it's a massive call for him to do that, if he left out the likes of Kane, Bellingham, Saka on Saturday and we lost he's be fucking slaughtered by many, no point saying otherwise.
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Massive Attack
11:22 Wed Jun 26
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What have I done to deserve 2 gutless mind numbing managers in charge of both my beloved Teams, as all this Ceefax Football isn't worth watching. It's fucking torture and what makes it worse is the Team is littered with quality.
The approach to games, tactics, in-game management, Team selection are all wrong. Thank fuck we were lucky to be drawn in a piss easy group. We would have likely qualified in 3rd place too what with the new Format change making it easier than ever to get through - Scotland LOL. And because we've been afforded a lucky easy group to navigate through, we now have an excellent chance of going deep in the Tournament due to the other half of the draw now being loaded with all the quality.
Better to be a lucky manager than a good one I suppose but fuck me the watch has been horrific, even though we are blessed with unbelievable talent.
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Sir Alf
10:57 Wed Jun 26
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Kane’s a big part of the problem. Lacks the pace and movement to create space and struggles to press high up the pitch. Foden should be central and Bellingham tried deeper or dropped.
Mainoo helped and Palmer had a nice cameo at the end. But so did Bowen first game. On the subject of Bowen, looks like he’s been scapegoated for his 20 min appearance against Denmark ( in a struggling England side ) and wont be seen again. Same applies to Eze as Southgate’s going for the scattergun trying everyone out in progressive games but with the same set up and tactics. So wont drop Kane, Bellingham or Saka. The latter two have largely been ineffective aside from the first 30 mins of the first game and Kane is playing like a man past his sell by date.
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LeroysBoots
10:39 Wed Jun 26
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None of this is a surprise is it, we all knew that we are never going to win fuck all with this cunt in charge. He sees things differently to everyone else, his positive appraisal of mediocrity is fucking laughable. The sooner we lose the better then this fraud can fuck off.
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LeroysBoots
10:35 Wed Jun 26
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None of this is a surprise is it, we all knew that we are never going to win fuck all with this cunt in charge. He sees things differently to everyone else, his positive appraisal of mediocrity is fucking laughable. The sooner we lose the better then this fraud can fuck off.
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Coffee
8:03 Wed Jun 26
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Feeble. One goal in three games. Minimal effort and belief.
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Manuel
5:12 Wed Jun 26
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Only watched the highlights, suppose it's a case of more questions than answers again. At this point I think we have to write Southgate off in terms of fixing this, he clearly doesn't have any clue whatsoever and is now just making it up as he goes along and hoping for some magic to win a game, the same as Moyes did with us. So based on the fact that we DO have some very good players, the hope now for me is that the players themselves go out there and perform to their potential, but in the modern game without any game plan or tactics coached into them that isn't likely to be enough.
I'm happy to play the Dutch, enough of these easy knockout games that we've had in recent tournaments, it will be a great occasion and maybe just what we need to get going. Clearly, the team will be the one that started the second half here.
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El Scorchio
4:07 Wed Jun 26
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So we get the Dutch unless the Czechs beat Turkey. Then we'll get third from the Belgium group, and I'l be staggered if it's them.
Extra incentive to get behind Soucek and Coufal.
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the coming of gary
3:16 Wed Jun 26
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And as Danny Baker just said ;
BBC opening game, 2026 World cup
'We are delighted to be joined on our panel, by the former England manager Gareth Southgate'
"Nailed on. Like going to the House of Lords. Being paid bundles"
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Takashi Miike
2:43 Wed Jun 26
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the most worrying thing was hearing southgate say that gallagher had played well. not starting the tournament with a proper left sided player like gordon and wanting someone partnering rice, he's now left himself in an impossible situation where he refuses to drop foden, bellingham or saka and because of his obsession with a second holding player, doesn't have the courage to change things.
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