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A flag should be about pride. About unity. About celebrating who we are.That’s not what’s happening right now. These England flags going up everywhere?That’s not patriotism. That’s marking territory. That’s sending a message.And the message is ugly: “This is ours. You don’t belong here.”That isn’t pride. That’s fear. That’s exclusion. That’s racism dressed up as tradition.Real patriotism doesn’t slam the door in someone’s face. Real patriotism says: we are strong enough, proud enough, confident enough to welcome others in. To share our values — values of fairness, decency, tolerance — the values that have always made Britain worth being proud of.When you turn the flag into a weapon, you betray it. You betray our history. You betray the very idea of Britain.Because the truth is this: our flag should say we belong together. Not you stay out.
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BRANDED wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 12:14 Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individuallibertyconsent of the governedpolitical equality, the right to private property, and equality before the law.

Who in fucks name doesnt want that?

The problem lies with the equality of retards.


 
Technically the mordern left are post neoliberals.
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Mad Ferret" wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:20
Massive Attack" wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:18 It's the radical Hard Left/Liberals that are the genuine nutters. 
The far-right are obviously nutters as well.

The problem is though, the left like to label everyone who disagrees with them as far-right.
 
 
 
 
That's because they're emotionally disturbed irrational hysterical loons.

You don't see the right running around screaming at every one they disagree with calling them commie, Stalin, Mao, Franco or Pol Pot.

And isn't it interesting how the left seems to have the majority of the 20th centuries mass murdering genocidal dicatators...
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There’s a lot of stupid people out there for sure.
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Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individuallibertyconsent of the governedpolitical equality, the right to private property, and equality before the law.

Who in fucks name doesnt want that?

The problem lies with the equality of retards.

 
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zebthecat wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:09
THUNDERCLINT wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 08:50
Nutsin wrote: 16 Sep 2025, 19:47
Liberalism is a mental illness.




 
Of course it is, always has been. It's why they're all no miserable and have no emotional control.

The Loony Left notion wasn't an accident or a joke, sadly it was too dismissive on the danger these freaks presented but thankfully the masses have seen the light. 
You and Nutz are the same in that you paint everyone on the left as loonies.
No, we don't. We don't have to because you do it yourself.

lThe left is just a rabble of easily led morons or emotionally disturbed loons,  followed by a bunch of easily led emotionally disturbed moronic loons.

It's why the left was targetted to be the useful idiots of whoever is really pulling their strings. No paid agitators on the centre, centre right, right or the mythical bogeyman far right...
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Mad Ferret" wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:39
Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:36
Mad Ferret" wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:20
The far-right are obviously nutters as well.

The problem is though, the left like to label everyone who disagrees with them as far-right.
Exactly who are these "Far Right"?
The guy with the hand-held mic in the blue T-shirt steaming into a conversation with instant aggression? Is he an example of who you say is "Far Right"?
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:36
Mad Ferret" wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:20
Massive Attack" wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:18 It's the radical Hard Left/Liberals that are the genuine nutters. 
The far-right are obviously nutters as well.

The problem is though, the left like to label everyone who disagrees with them as far-right.
Exactly who are these "Far Right"?
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Mad Ferret" wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:20
Massive Attack" wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:18 It's the radical Hard Left/Liberals that are the genuine nutters. 
The far-right are obviously nutters as well.

The problem is though, the left like to label everyone who disagrees with them as far-right.
Exactly who are these "Far Right"?

There are some WHO posters claiming other posters on here are "Far Right", but none of those making such claims have identified any of those posters by name or what makes them "Far Right".

The lack of such evidence suggests that this "Far Right" concept exists only in the minds of people who can't handle world views that differ from their own.
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Massive Attack" wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:18 It's the radical Hard Left/Liberals that are the genuine nutters. 
The far-right are obviously nutters as well.

The problem is though, the left like to label everyone who disagrees with them as far-right.
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It's the radical Hard Left/Liberals that are the genuine nutters, not the more moderate lot. I'd even put Starmer in that bracket. Something about him that gives off vibes he aint the full ticket.
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THUNDERCLINT wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 08:50
Nutsin wrote: 16 Sep 2025, 19:47
Liberalism is a mental illness.


 
Of course it is, always has been. It's why they're all no miserable and have no emotional control.

The Loony Left notion wasn't an accident or a joke, sadly it was too dismissive on the danger these freaks presented but thankfully the masses have seen the light. 
 
You and Nutz are the same in that you paint everyone on the left as loonies.
This is not the case.
When I was a kid I went on Anti-Nazi League marches largely because the NF was actually violent at the time. Two of my school classmates were attacked on their way home by paki-bashers and that was definitely a thing at the time along with gay people getting attacked.
I bailed when these protests were hijacked by the like of Class War and the RCP who were there just to cause chaos which did not align with my ideas for peaceful protest as did a lot of people.
Political violence, whatever the source, is not the anwser to anything.
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Reading the comments on online newspaper articles is hilarious. Mostly insane nutters.

the point about the march is that it probably contained less insane nutters than most marches.

 
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 08:30 I notice that in (at least), The Guardian, the Independent & the BBC, left-leaning commentators & contributors are doing the exact same thing that the are accusing those they see as (far) right doing.

They, like Brexit remainers have already decided what we as a nation need and they're not going to stop unless and until they get their own way - and fuck the racists who have the temerity to hold differing views to them. And everyone who holds a differing view to them is clearly a racist.

They'll be blaming Trump next as the sole reason that they (THEY) have and hold  such deeply embedded & entrenched bigoted views.
I read The Guardian, mostly for a different view. You should read the comments (normally open from about 10'ish), they are in  meltdown, Brexit is the major cause of everything and everyone that doesn't agree with that view is Far-right & racist.

You would assume that Saturday's march was full of hate & all the violence was by far-right thugs, the numbers at Event was 100k (no more mind)... 'Hope not Hate' sponsored by the Government and that weasel of a man 'Owen Jones' push out so much hate of anyone that prescribes to a different view and even platform Mayor Khan... the Left wonder why there is so much hatred, perhaps they should look at themselves and think... 'free-speech is only on the agenda when it suits their rhetoric, otherwise you're just another 'Gammon Far-Right Racist'.

Gardian comments link: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... ir-starmer
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Saw a comment along the lones of

” if that was 110,000 people tgen that’s equivalent to the number of illeagaks who came in last year”

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Nutsin wrote: 16 Sep 2025, 19:47
Liberalism is a mental illness.

 
Of course it is, always has been. It's why they're all no miserable and have no emotional control.

The Loony Left notion wasn't an accident or a joke, sadly it was too dismissive on the danger these freaks presented but thankfully the masses have seen the light. 
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I notice that in (at least), The Guardian, the Independent & the BBC, left-leaning commentators & contributors are doing the exact same thing that the are accusing those they see as (far) right doing.

They, like Brexit remainers have already decided what we as a nation need and they're not going to stop unless and until they get their own way - and fuck the racists who have the temerity to hold differing views to them. And everyone who holds a differing view to them is clearly a racist.

They'll be blaming Trump next as the sole reason that they (THEY) have and hold  such deeply embedded & entrenched bigoted views.
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Nutsin » 16 Sep 2025, 19:47

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Looks like Khan and those on the left don’t realize we are way beyond the term ‘racist’ thankfully.

and their new buzz word “Fascist” that is just as easily ignored.

Looks like they’ve run out of words which is why they can’t intelligently debate on any issue.
 

The District attorney just made an announcement from the Utah Governors office.

They are seeking the death penalty for Kirk’s killer.

He read out details on what was written on the bullets and text messages between the killer and his trannie lover after the murder.

Liberalism is a mental illness.
 
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Patriotism​​​​​Exiled In Surrey » 02 Sep 2025, 10:10

I could have a long debate with you about this but will restrict my comments on the original post to: What a fucking load of old bollocks!
 
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What a fucking great day we had along with hundreds of thousands (if not in the million/s??) of fellow proud Patriots displaying our love for the Country, shared values and concerns for how we are governed peacefully, bar a very, very small minority (just as there were from Antifa causing some trouble) involved with a small proportion of Police. To put that in to context, the trouble at Notting Hill Carnival this year blew it out the water with wrongdoing with a fraction of those that attended Saturday (and Friday at Charlie Kirks vigil) by comparison to our huge unprecedented numbers. 

The crowd consisted predominantly from very young to very old, black, white, straight and gay women and men of all walks of life and religions from both near to the furthest corners of the world were amongst us and many law abiding people simply expressing ourselves with good intentions. 

Very proud to be English and British today. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧
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I see this morning that the British Brainwashing Corporation has managed to shoehorn footage from the weekends demonstration, into a piece about Mary Whitehouse. They were talking about her homophobia and seconds later this was linked to the flag waving.

The inference being that the majority of those featured on the screen, would also be homophobic.

And they have the fucking temerity to run something called a truth verifier?
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Who is it, exactly, who sees a nations flag, flying in it's own country as a weapon? What sort of person thinks that way?

Immigrants certainly shouldn't, and probably don't, as they freely chose to come and live in the country the flag represents, so they clearly love the UK (or they'd move elsewhere).

So, if it's not the immigrants, who's personal view - not the one they feel other people should have - forces them to feel that the flags of the UK and it's constituent nations are a weapon?

Now. Racists waving the flag whilst getting all shouty and, well, racist, is another, albeit united under the flag, matter.

Who was it that allowed such activity to evolve without even bothering to counter it? The state, the left-leaning state, maybe?

I know! The racists can have OUR nation's flags, we don't need them anyway; they're old, boring and associated with past victories - WE will fly the flag of, say, Palestine, in it's place instead. There! That'll learn 'em.
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Exiled In Surrey" wrote: 02 Sep 2025, 10:10 A flag should be about pride. About unity. About celebrating who we are.That’s not what’s happening right now. These England flags going up everywhere?That’s not patriotism. That’s marking territory. That’s sending a message.And the message is ugly: “This is ours. You don’t belong here.”That isn’t pride. That’s fear. That’s exclusion. That’s racism dressed up as tradition.Real patriotism doesn’t slam the door in someone’s face. Real patriotism says: we are strong enough, proud enough, confident enough to welcome others in. To share our values — values of fairness, decency, tolerance — the values that have always made Britain worth being proud of.When you turn the flag into a weapon, you betray it. You betray our history. You betray the very idea of Britain.Because the truth is this: our flag should say we belong together. Not you stay out.
What a load of bollox. A flag is about pride, love for your country and this putting up flags is to let the establishment that this is still England/Britain. Not Ukraine, not that thing in the Middle East. The people are letting the Establishment, Authorities, Globalists that we are sick of being ignored. This is our territory. You are damn right we are sending a message. Anyone who comes to this country, respects our culture, traditions, heritage, way of life etc doesn't take liberties, will always be welcome. Nobody is saying no one is welcome, that is a lie spreaded by the real far left fascists like you to create fear and division. But at the same time there are far too many people in this country that hate it, who 100% don't be long here and that is including white liberals, poxy lefty commies. No matter how much you scream racism, it doesn't wash, hold any value anymore. By the way it is you lot that racially abuse and discriminate people who don't subscribe to your way of thinking. You also say people are using the flags as a weapon (which is a lie) you vermin have weaponized racism to shut down dissenting voices, trying to shame those from speaking up. You talk about tolerance, yet you don't tolerate otherrs views. Only people that have betrayed Britain is  every single cսnt in parliament, the king, and you morons. You and your political correctness are the reason 3 beautiful babies were murdered and others were injured in Southport, children blown up at concerts, 250k+ groomed and raped, numerous terrorist attacks, soldiers attacked on the streets. All on you and your ilk.

Thankfully the country is waking and seeing you lot for what you are....Fascist Commie Scum.
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Happily if called upon and I suspect hundreds of thousands, if not over a million more would too but that's just a hunch. 
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I wonder how many will go fight the Russians if it all kicks off?
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