The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Nutsin]

As per usual you misunderstand the post Syd.
I truly believe the liberal party is mentally ill. Look at what Starmer is doing to the British people, Look at what the Dems are doing and have done in the States.

your TDS immediately jumps to Trump. I never mentioned Trump and I didn’t mention Farage either.

The illness is real and you have it!

Cont’d

And to be clear it’s not just the TDS you all have, it’s the Deviant freak shows at kids schools, butchering kids genitals permanently before they reach adolescence, the support of grooming gangs and support of the cover up, it’s the refusal to speak out about the terrorist attacks against people all over the world. I could go on, but you’re mentally ill, so what’s the point. Pretty fucking evil too Id say.

But seeing as you mentioned Trump, At least we don’t have a Starmer.

 

I'm actually glad that Trump has called out the woke stuff, some  of us can pick and choose what he says that makes sense and what is unhinged btw. It's you that seems a frothy mouthed fool that can't separate that sensible stuff from the mental stuff.

Yeah, I like Trump, he stands up for my interests. Not afraid to admit it. I’ve never said he was perfect but fuck me, look who he has been up against, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and Kamala. 3 of the worst people to have as a President. Biden confirmed this.

So to be clear I’d say it’s my hate for the Dems and their policies that motivates me, more than my approval of Trump.

But Trump love him or hate him is transparent and is far from the usual slimey politician. Although the way the Dems went after him also made me more pro Trump.

Be honest you like more than trumps stance on Wokism, it’s okay to admit it, don’t be scared.

[Hammer I am]

He's probably realised he only has a couple of decades of his life left.

 

Ha. You are still here posting, mate.  Have you any more Zelensky soul glipses you absolutely must share with us?

I guess the point is, do you want to debate some issues or not?  Or do you agree that Zelensky has seen this plan is the best way forward?

I'd love to debate, difficult though as you're a shifting sands "whatabout" type, and Nutsin is a red and blue dyed idiot. Let's revisit this, as long as Ii don't hear your ever moving position to 'i never supported him anyway ', which I'd bet my house too, you'll be pedalling back to in a month or two  

Feel free to stamp your flag down now. 

[Hammer I am]

Yep, it's called anchoring bias and it's becoming more and more common in today's world

As per usual you misunderstand the post Syd.
I truly believe the liberal party is mentally ill. Look at what Starmer is doing to the British people, Look at what the Dems are doing and have done in the States.

your TDS immediately jumps to Trump. I never mentioned Trump and I didn’t mention Farage either.

The illness is real and you have it!

Cont’d

And to be clear it’s not just the TDS you all have, it’s the Deviant freak shows at kids schools, butchering kids genitals permanently before they reach adolescence, the support of grooming gangs and support of the cover up, it’s the refusal to speak out about the terrorist attacks against people all over the world. I could go on, but you’re mentally ill, so what’s the point. Pretty fucking evil too Id say.

But seeing as you mentioned Trump, At least we don’t have a Starmer.

 

 

I'm actually glad that Trump has called out the woke stuff, some  of us can pick and choose what he says that makes sense and what is unhinged btw. It's you that seems a frothy mouthed fool that can't separate that sensible stuff from the mental stuff.

[ironsofcanada]

He's probably realised he only has a couple of decades of his life left.

 

 

Ha. You are still here posting, mate.  Have you any more Zelensky soul glipses you absolutely must share with us?

I guess the point is, do you want to debate some issues or not?  Or do you agree that Zelensky has seen this plan is the best way forward?

[Nutsin]

So according to Elon, he offered Biden to help bring the 3 stranded Astronauts home that are still stuck in spec but Biden declined because of political reasons, namely Musks affiliation with Trump. 
so instead of bringing home the stranded Astronauts Biden decided to leave them up there.

Sounds unbelievable but it was confirmed by one of the stranded astronauts when asked by a member of the press, so it happened.

Always leaving Americans behind aren’t they these Dems, I mean we had the unforgivable Benghazi, Afghanistan withdrawal and now these astronauts.

Despicable cunts!

[Hammer I am]

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada...

You have now mentioned Canada a number of times.

Is there a reason you have avoided discussing it with me.  You talk about being locked into views but won't apparently see a relevant on that issue.

"Is there a reason you have avoided discussing it with me'

He's probably realised he only has a couple of decades of his life left.

[Nutsin]

The mentally ill are those that blindly follow and believe all things Trump (or any politician) OR the opposite and see Hitler or Mussolini in everything he does 

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada), of course in this day and age to the left that makes you some kind of fascist as your not all in in hating everything Trump, but to the true believers of all things Trump your branded a left wing woke commie or mentally ill as your also not all in on support for him

We live in bizarre times that's all i can see.

But as said a few times its the internet and no one really gives fuck what anyone else thinks, but we can all share our opinion, even if no one is listening, agreeing or even reading!

Yep, it's called anchoring bias and it's becoming more and more common in today's world

As per usual you misunderstand the post Syd.
I truly believe the liberal party is mentally ill. Look at what Starmer is doing to the British people, Look at what the Dems are doing and have done in the States.

your TDS immediately jumps to Trump. I never mentioned Trump and I didn’t mention Farage either.

The illness is real and you have it!

Cont’d

And to be clear it’s not just the TDS you all have, it’s the Deviant freak shows at kids schools, butchering kids genitals permanently before they reach adolescence, the support of grooming gangs and support of the cover up, it’s the refusal to speak out about the terrorist attacks against people all over the world. I could go on, but you’re mentally ill, so what’s the point. Pretty fucking evil too Id say.

But seeing as you mentioned Trump, At least we don’t have a Starmer.

[Nutsin]

It’s apparent that the left really are mentally ill.




 

The mentally ill are those that blindly follow and believe all things Trump (or any politician) OR the opposite and see Hitler or Mussolini in everything he does 

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada), of course in this day and age to the left that makes you some kind of fascist as your not all in in hating everything Trump, but to the true believers of all things Trump your branded a left wing woke commie or mentally ill as your also not all in on support for him

We live in bizarre times that's all i can see.

But as said a few times its the internet and no one really gives fuck what anyone else thinks, but we can all share our opinion, even if no one is listening, agreeing or even reading!

Yep, it's called anchoring bias and it's becoming more and more common in today's world

As per usual you misunderstand the post Syd.
I truly believe the liberal party is mentally ill. Look at what Starmer is doing to the British people, Look at what the Dems are doing and have done in the States.

your TDS immediately jumps to Trump. I never mentioned Trump and I didn’t mention Farage either.

The illness is real and you have it!

[ironsofcanada]

 Might last as long as Trump is in power then Ukraine and the rest of Europe will be back to where we are now.

You start by saying Trump can't be trusted in anything and then end up agreeing with one of his boastful points? Peace relies on him being president?

Your prognastication ignores the facts.  The mineral demand is not done in less than 4 years. You give the US, not just Trump, a stake in Ukraine's peace and soveriegnty and they have a massive incentive to maintain that. 

Do you deny that many in the States and elsewhere have had a historical incentive to keep wars going?  

We should distrust what Trump (and all politicians) says but I look at an actual record of clashing with and falling out with neo-cons (who preach and benefit from war) and his getting and staying out of wars.  In the world of politics, that is really your best and often only gauge.

[ironsofcanada]

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada...

You have now mentioned Canada a number of times.

Is there a reason you have avoided discussing it with me.  You talk about being locked into views but won't apparently see a relevant on that issue.

[ironsofcanada]

Yep, it's called anchoring bias and it's becoming more and more common in today's world

It is what I was calling out with you and Zelensky.

[nychammer]

AMy body else see Elon Musks recent interview on Rogans Podcast?

The worlds richest and some would argue smartest man said they have found several examples of clear and obvious fraud and corruption in Gov’t spending (not just insider trading) much worse that he hasn’t exposed or mentioned it yet because he fears for his life.

Is Elon not to be trusted now too? OR could he be telling the truth?

My money is on the latter and I believe Trump will expose it all. How else is Nancy Pelosi worth 100’s of millions for example.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if there are Republicans on the take too.

If I’m a gambling man I’d put money on Trump burying the bastards.
I have noticed how Nancy has been very quiet lately which is unlike her. 

Fuck I hope they expose them all soon. 

There can be very little question over Government Waste, Fraud and Corruption. Its what happens in the public sector where there is an almost unlimited supply of money (complicit politicians in congress), no shareholders to appease and little to no responsible auditing on where the money goes. Most voters here are dyed-in-the-wool when it comes to which party they vote for so only a few really pay attention to this stuff and act on it (The last election was different). In the private sector we are always right sizing the workforce, looking for efficiencies and spending prudently. The bottom line impact on share price and competition motivates like nothing else. Understand that Government cannot work that way, but a light needs to be shone on how public money is spent and I'm glad Musk is willing to do this (note he is appointed / employed to advise, not elected, which by the way is totally fine)

[nychammer]

South Africa Mk2 on the way, the original version also destroyed by communists




 

are they merging with Zimbabwe?

[Takashi Miike]

"examples of clear and obvious fraud and corruption in Gov’t spending"

One of those examples visited the White House on Friday

[Nutsin]

AMy body else see Elon Musks recent interview on Rogans Podcast?

The worlds richest and some would argue smartest man said they have found several examples of clear and obvious fraud and corruption in Gov’t spending (not just insider trading) much worse that he hasn’t exposed or mentioned it yet because he fears for his life.

Is Elon not to be trusted now too? OR could he be telling the truth?

My money is on the latter and I believe Trump will expose it all. How else is Nancy Pelosi worth 100’s of millions for example.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if there are Republicans on the take too.

If I’m a gambling man I’d put money on Trump burying the bastards.
I have noticed how Nancy has been very quiet lately which is unlike her. 

Fuck I hope they expose them all soon. 

[dealcanvey]

 

Find the quote where he said he’d have it done on Inauguration Day then.

Funny how the people that have been critical against a peace deal, think they have legitimate criticism of Trump for not doing it fast enough.

I’m not going to find you anything. You can find it yourself easily online/youtube. He actually said he’d get it done before he got to the Oval as he gets on with both presidents well (half true).

what’s more funny is doubting that Trump would spout such lies. He lies so much people get bored of it and now gets a free pass. The biggest lie of all is that his main priority is to save innocent lives. 

I just asked you to back up your claim. Since you claimed a focus on exactly what he said. 

i assumed you loosely meant the 24 hours in which he stated he could end it, as if you’re disappointed he hasn’t already achieved his goal, despite clearly being against it happening.

Not sure you have any point about priority if he gets a peace deal. As it’s preferable to the perpetual war that opposition to him seem to want. Which clearly includes you.

 

Jaan,

My point is that Trump simply cannot be trusted on anything he says. He makes it up as he goes along. Makes the most outrageous remarks and denies saying it the very next day.

it is very easy to point the finger and say that those against Trump are against stopping the war. Alot of reform voters are plugging this narrative. 

There is another man that cannot be trusted called Putin. Forcing Ukraine to sign a peace deal especially one orchestrated by Trump and Putin wont last long at all. Might last as long as Trump is in power then Ukraine and the rest of Europe will be back to where we are now.

 

[Hammer I am]

It’s apparent that the left really are mentally ill.



 

The mentally ill are those that blindly follow and believe all things Trump (or any politician) OR the opposite and see Hitler or Mussolini in everything he does 

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada), of course in this day and age to the left that makes you some kind of fascist as your not all in in hating everything Trump, but to the true believers of all things Trump your branded a left wing woke commie or mentally ill as your also not all in on support for him

We live in bizarre times that's all i can see.

But as said a few times its the internet and no one really gives fuck what anyone else thinks, but we can all share our opinion, even if no one is listening, agreeing or even reading!

Yep, it's called anchoring bias and it's becoming more and more common in today's world

[Far Cough UKunt]

Cunts

[Takashi Miike]

South Africa Mk2 on the way, the original version also destroyed by communists



 

[Sydney_Iron]

It’s apparent that the left really are mentally ill.


 

The mentally ill are those that blindly follow and believe all things Trump (or any politician) OR the opposite and see Hitler or Mussolini in everything he does 

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada), of course in this day and age to the left that makes you some kind of fascist as your not all in in hating everything Trump, but to the true believers of all things Trump your branded a left wing woke commie or mentally ill as your also not all in on support for him

We live in bizarre times that's all i can see.

But as said a few times its the internet and no one really gives fuck what anyone else thinks, but we can all share our opinion, even if no one is listening, agreeing or even reading!

[Nutsin]

It’s apparent that the left really are mentally ill.

 

[Sydney_Iron]

Sydders can't even manage to work out the time difference between the UK and Sydney, so I wouldn't take too much notice of his political views.

Sad but True I'm afraid to say and being Friday today, i still have 7 days before our next Monday night game............

[Manuel]

Sydders can't even manage to work out the time difference between the UK and Sydney, so I wouldn't take too much notice of his political views.

[Sydney_Iron]

Sydney, apart from the Greenland thing, which seems to be bothering you more than it should, what else specifically that he has said is affecting you so much that you need to be having a meltdown about it?

FMOB!

Thanks for the concern Eerie  but i think im going to be ok, its the fucking Internet after all and no one really gives a flying fuck what anyone else thinks on just about any subject.

Having recently retired i was having a moment as it where  Maybe the hormones are having a hissy fit so i started ranting................

As to Greenland, never been there, not sure i would want to, seems fucking cold and just a bunch of Eskimos (are we allowed to call them that) doing jack shit, eating fermented fish and whale blubber, so if they want to join the Septic's its up to them and NOT Trump.

Thanks again

*Group hug 

Sydders

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Let’s not go by posters on a football forum. Let’s go by what Trump has said himself. This was meant to be over on 21st January. 

 

Find the quote where he said he’d have it done on Inauguration Day then.

Funny how the people that have been critical against a peace deal, think they have legitimate criticism of Trump for not doing it fast enough.

I’m not going to find you anything. You can find it yourself easily online/youtube. He actually said he’d get it done before he got to the Oval as he gets on with both presidents well (half true).

what’s more funny is doubting that Trump would spout such lies. He lies so much people get bored of it and now gets a free pass. The biggest lie of all is that his main priority is to save innocent lives. 

I just asked you to back up your claim. Since you claimed a focus on exactly what he said. 

i assumed you loosely meant the 24 hours in which he stated he could end it, as if you’re disappointed he hasn’t already achieved his goal, despite clearly being against it happening.

Not sure you have any point about priority if he gets a peace deal. As it’s preferable to the perpetual war that opposition to him seem to want. Which clearly includes you.