The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[ironsofcanada]

You lost me a bit IOC, i mentioned Canada but avoided discussing what exactly?

You ask why Trump would say what he said about Canada and Trudeau.
I gave some thoughts on reasons and then you mentioned the country a few more times but never came back to that. 

No big deal. 

It is certainly different political times we live in, look at what the Democrats having been trying to in order to be relevant even after a couple months. 

[Sydney_Iron]

You have now mentioned Canada a number of times.

Is there a reason you have avoided discussing it with me.  You talk about being locked into views but won't apparently see a relevant on that issue.

You lost me a bit IOC, i mentioned Canada but avoided discussing what exactly?

I do like Canada though, been a couple of times, but TBH can see Trudeau got quite a bit of coverage during COVID but apart from that don't know a lot, well apart from Trump suggestion they become a US state!!!

The locked into views stuff (was that to do with Canada??, again lost me!) does seem more prevalent these days, was on another forum and suggested not everything Trump has done is bad, but some won't have it and label you some kind of apologist etc. Also suggested the Dems lost as the candidates they put up was so piss poor and in general they have alienated themselves from ordinary people especially in embracing or failing to rein in all this woke crap or doing anything to stop all the border crossings in particular, then they wonder why they lost, but again that makes me a MAGA red neck

Mind you if you say that Trump at times spouts utter gash, you get the reverse  Just the way of the world i suppose. Tolerance of others' views and in general seems to have taken a step backwards.

[Nutsin]

Boom, there it is. It has been officially announced that DOGE has uncovered levels of fraud that has risen to the level of criminality. So they will be making referrals to the DOJ for investigation.

I bet there are a lot of people shitting themselves right now.

Cant wait to see their homes get raided on live TV.


 

[Nutsin]

As per usual you misunderstand the post Syd.
I truly believe the liberal party is mentally ill. Look at what Starmer is doing to the British people, Look at what the Dems are doing and have done in the States.

your TDS immediately jumps to Trump. I never mentioned Trump and I didn’t mention Farage either.

The illness is real and you have it!

Cont’d

And to be clear it’s not just the TDS you all have, it’s the Deviant freak shows at kids schools, butchering kids genitals permanently before they reach adolescence, the support of grooming gangs and support of the cover up, it’s the refusal to speak out about the terrorist attacks against people all over the world. I could go on, but you’re mentally ill, so what’s the point. Pretty fucking evil too Id say.

But seeing as you mentioned Trump, At least we don’t have a Starmer.

 

I'm actually glad that Trump has called out the woke stuff, some  of us can pick and choose what he says that makes sense and what is unhinged btw. It's you that seems a frothy mouthed fool that can't separate that sensible stuff from the mental stuff.

Yeah, I like Trump, he stands up for my interests. Not afraid to admit it. I’ve never said he was perfect but fuck me, look who he has been up against, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and Kamala. 3 of the worst people to have as a President. Biden confirmed this.

So to be clear I’d say it’s my hate for the Dems and their policies that motivates me, more than my approval of Trump.

But Trump love him or hate him is transparent and is far from the usual slimey politician. Although the way the Dems went after him also made me more pro Trump.

Be honest you like more than trumps stance on Wokism, it’s okay to admit it, don’t be scared.

[Hammer I am]

He's probably realised he only has a couple of decades of his life left.

 

Ha. You are still here posting, mate.  Have you any more Zelensky soul glipses you absolutely must share with us?

I guess the point is, do you want to debate some issues or not?  Or do you agree that Zelensky has seen this plan is the best way forward?

I'd love to debate, difficult though as you're a shifting sands "whatabout" type, and Nutsin is a red and blue dyed idiot. Let's revisit this, as long as Ii don't hear your ever moving position to 'i never supported him anyway ', which I'd bet my house too, you'll be pedalling back to in a month or two  

Feel free to stamp your flag down now. 

[Hammer I am]

Yep, it's called anchoring bias and it's becoming more and more common in today's world

As per usual you misunderstand the post Syd.
I truly believe the liberal party is mentally ill. Look at what Starmer is doing to the British people, Look at what the Dems are doing and have done in the States.

your TDS immediately jumps to Trump. I never mentioned Trump and I didn’t mention Farage either.

The illness is real and you have it!

Cont’d

And to be clear it’s not just the TDS you all have, it’s the Deviant freak shows at kids schools, butchering kids genitals permanently before they reach adolescence, the support of grooming gangs and support of the cover up, it’s the refusal to speak out about the terrorist attacks against people all over the world. I could go on, but you’re mentally ill, so what’s the point. Pretty fucking evil too Id say.

But seeing as you mentioned Trump, At least we don’t have a Starmer.

 

 

I'm actually glad that Trump has called out the woke stuff, some  of us can pick and choose what he says that makes sense and what is unhinged btw. It's you that seems a frothy mouthed fool that can't separate that sensible stuff from the mental stuff.

[ironsofcanada]

He's probably realised he only has a couple of decades of his life left.

 

 

Ha. You are still here posting, mate.  Have you any more Zelensky soul glipses you absolutely must share with us?

I guess the point is, do you want to debate some issues or not?  Or do you agree that Zelensky has seen this plan is the best way forward?

[Nutsin]

So according to Elon, he offered Biden to help bring the 3 stranded Astronauts home that are still stuck in spec but Biden declined because of political reasons, namely Musks affiliation with Trump. 
so instead of bringing home the stranded Astronauts Biden decided to leave them up there.

Sounds unbelievable but it was confirmed by one of the stranded astronauts when asked by a member of the press, so it happened.

Always leaving Americans behind aren’t they these Dems, I mean we had the unforgivable Benghazi, Afghanistan withdrawal and now these astronauts.

Despicable cunts!

[Hammer I am]

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada...

You have now mentioned Canada a number of times.

Is there a reason you have avoided discussing it with me.  You talk about being locked into views but won't apparently see a relevant on that issue.

"Is there a reason you have avoided discussing it with me'

He's probably realised he only has a couple of decades of his life left.

[Nutsin]

The mentally ill are those that blindly follow and believe all things Trump (or any politician) OR the opposite and see Hitler or Mussolini in everything he does 

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada), of course in this day and age to the left that makes you some kind of fascist as your not all in in hating everything Trump, but to the true believers of all things Trump your branded a left wing woke commie or mentally ill as your also not all in on support for him

We live in bizarre times that's all i can see.

But as said a few times its the internet and no one really gives fuck what anyone else thinks, but we can all share our opinion, even if no one is listening, agreeing or even reading!

Yep, it's called anchoring bias and it's becoming more and more common in today's world

As per usual you misunderstand the post Syd.
I truly believe the liberal party is mentally ill. Look at what Starmer is doing to the British people, Look at what the Dems are doing and have done in the States.

your TDS immediately jumps to Trump. I never mentioned Trump and I didn’t mention Farage either.

The illness is real and you have it!

Cont’d

And to be clear it’s not just the TDS you all have, it’s the Deviant freak shows at kids schools, butchering kids genitals permanently before they reach adolescence, the support of grooming gangs and support of the cover up, it’s the refusal to speak out about the terrorist attacks against people all over the world. I could go on, but you’re mentally ill, so what’s the point. Pretty fucking evil too Id say.

But seeing as you mentioned Trump, At least we don’t have a Starmer.

[Nutsin]

It’s apparent that the left really are mentally ill.




 

The mentally ill are those that blindly follow and believe all things Trump (or any politician) OR the opposite and see Hitler or Mussolini in everything he does 

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada), of course in this day and age to the left that makes you some kind of fascist as your not all in in hating everything Trump, but to the true believers of all things Trump your branded a left wing woke commie or mentally ill as your also not all in on support for him

We live in bizarre times that's all i can see.

But as said a few times its the internet and no one really gives fuck what anyone else thinks, but we can all share our opinion, even if no one is listening, agreeing or even reading!

Yep, it's called anchoring bias and it's becoming more and more common in today's world

As per usual you misunderstand the post Syd.
I truly believe the liberal party is mentally ill. Look at what Starmer is doing to the British people, Look at what the Dems are doing and have done in the States.

your TDS immediately jumps to Trump. I never mentioned Trump and I didn’t mention Farage either.

The illness is real and you have it!

[ironsofcanada]

 Might last as long as Trump is in power then Ukraine and the rest of Europe will be back to where we are now.

You start by saying Trump can't be trusted in anything and then end up agreeing with one of his boastful points? Peace relies on him being president?

Your prognastication ignores the facts.  The mineral demand is not done in less than 4 years. You give the US, not just Trump, a stake in Ukraine's peace and soveriegnty and they have a massive incentive to maintain that. 

Do you deny that many in the States and elsewhere have had a historical incentive to keep wars going?  

We should distrust what Trump (and all politicians) says but I look at an actual record of clashing with and falling out with neo-cons (who preach and benefit from war) and his getting and staying out of wars.  In the world of politics, that is really your best and often only gauge.

[ironsofcanada]

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada...

You have now mentioned Canada a number of times.

Is there a reason you have avoided discussing it with me.  You talk about being locked into views but won't apparently see a relevant on that issue.

[ironsofcanada]

Yep, it's called anchoring bias and it's becoming more and more common in today's world

It is what I was calling out with you and Zelensky.

[nychammer]

AMy body else see Elon Musks recent interview on Rogans Podcast?

The worlds richest and some would argue smartest man said they have found several examples of clear and obvious fraud and corruption in Gov’t spending (not just insider trading) much worse that he hasn’t exposed or mentioned it yet because he fears for his life.

Is Elon not to be trusted now too? OR could he be telling the truth?

My money is on the latter and I believe Trump will expose it all. How else is Nancy Pelosi worth 100’s of millions for example.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if there are Republicans on the take too.

If I’m a gambling man I’d put money on Trump burying the bastards.
I have noticed how Nancy has been very quiet lately which is unlike her. 

Fuck I hope they expose them all soon. 

There can be very little question over Government Waste, Fraud and Corruption. Its what happens in the public sector where there is an almost unlimited supply of money (complicit politicians in congress), no shareholders to appease and little to no responsible auditing on where the money goes. Most voters here are dyed-in-the-wool when it comes to which party they vote for so only a few really pay attention to this stuff and act on it (The last election was different). In the private sector we are always right sizing the workforce, looking for efficiencies and spending prudently. The bottom line impact on share price and competition motivates like nothing else. Understand that Government cannot work that way, but a light needs to be shone on how public money is spent and I'm glad Musk is willing to do this (note he is appointed / employed to advise, not elected, which by the way is totally fine)

[nychammer]

South Africa Mk2 on the way, the original version also destroyed by communists




 

are they merging with Zimbabwe?

[Takashi Miike]

"examples of clear and obvious fraud and corruption in Gov’t spending"

One of those examples visited the White House on Friday

[Nutsin]

AMy body else see Elon Musks recent interview on Rogans Podcast?

The worlds richest and some would argue smartest man said they have found several examples of clear and obvious fraud and corruption in Gov’t spending (not just insider trading) much worse that he hasn’t exposed or mentioned it yet because he fears for his life.

Is Elon not to be trusted now too? OR could he be telling the truth?

My money is on the latter and I believe Trump will expose it all. How else is Nancy Pelosi worth 100’s of millions for example.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if there are Republicans on the take too.

If I’m a gambling man I’d put money on Trump burying the bastards.
I have noticed how Nancy has been very quiet lately which is unlike her. 

Fuck I hope they expose them all soon. 

[dealcanvey]

 

Find the quote where he said he’d have it done on Inauguration Day then.

Funny how the people that have been critical against a peace deal, think they have legitimate criticism of Trump for not doing it fast enough.

I’m not going to find you anything. You can find it yourself easily online/youtube. He actually said he’d get it done before he got to the Oval as he gets on with both presidents well (half true).

what’s more funny is doubting that Trump would spout such lies. He lies so much people get bored of it and now gets a free pass. The biggest lie of all is that his main priority is to save innocent lives. 

I just asked you to back up your claim. Since you claimed a focus on exactly what he said. 

i assumed you loosely meant the 24 hours in which he stated he could end it, as if you’re disappointed he hasn’t already achieved his goal, despite clearly being against it happening.

Not sure you have any point about priority if he gets a peace deal. As it’s preferable to the perpetual war that opposition to him seem to want. Which clearly includes you.

 

Jaan,

My point is that Trump simply cannot be trusted on anything he says. He makes it up as he goes along. Makes the most outrageous remarks and denies saying it the very next day.

it is very easy to point the finger and say that those against Trump are against stopping the war. Alot of reform voters are plugging this narrative. 

There is another man that cannot be trusted called Putin. Forcing Ukraine to sign a peace deal especially one orchestrated by Trump and Putin wont last long at all. Might last as long as Trump is in power then Ukraine and the rest of Europe will be back to where we are now.

 

[Hammer I am]

It’s apparent that the left really are mentally ill.



 

The mentally ill are those that blindly follow and believe all things Trump (or any politician) OR the opposite and see Hitler or Mussolini in everything he does 

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada), of course in this day and age to the left that makes you some kind of fascist as your not all in in hating everything Trump, but to the true believers of all things Trump your branded a left wing woke commie or mentally ill as your also not all in on support for him

We live in bizarre times that's all i can see.

But as said a few times its the internet and no one really gives fuck what anyone else thinks, but we can all share our opinion, even if no one is listening, agreeing or even reading!

Yep, it's called anchoring bias and it's becoming more and more common in today's world

[Far Cough UKunt]

Cunts

[Takashi Miike]

South Africa Mk2 on the way, the original version also destroyed by communists



 

[Sydney_Iron]

It’s apparent that the left really are mentally ill.


 

The mentally ill are those that blindly follow and believe all things Trump (or any politician) OR the opposite and see Hitler or Mussolini in everything he does 

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada), of course in this day and age to the left that makes you some kind of fascist as your not all in in hating everything Trump, but to the true believers of all things Trump your branded a left wing woke commie or mentally ill as your also not all in on support for him

We live in bizarre times that's all i can see.

But as said a few times its the internet and no one really gives fuck what anyone else thinks, but we can all share our opinion, even if no one is listening, agreeing or even reading!

[Nutsin]

It’s apparent that the left really are mentally ill.

 

[Sydney_Iron]

Sydders can't even manage to work out the time difference between the UK and Sydney, so I wouldn't take too much notice of his political views.

Sad but True I'm afraid to say and being Friday today, i still have 7 days before our next Monday night game............