The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

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[nychammer]

AMy body else see Elon Musks recent interview on Rogans Podcast?

The worlds richest and some would argue smartest man said they have found several examples of clear and obvious fraud and corruption in Gov’t spending (not just insider trading) much worse that he hasn’t exposed or mentioned it yet because he fears for his life.

Is Elon not to be trusted now too? OR could he be telling the truth?

My money is on the latter and I believe Trump will expose it all. How else is Nancy Pelosi worth 100’s of millions for example.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if there are Republicans on the take too.

If I’m a gambling man I’d put money on Trump burying the bastards.
I have noticed how Nancy has been very quiet lately which is unlike her. 

Fuck I hope they expose them all soon. 

There can be very little question over Government Waste, Fraud and Corruption. Its what happens in the public sector where there is an almost unlimited supply of money (complicit politicians in congress), no shareholders to appease and little to no responsible auditing on where the money goes. Most voters here are dyed-in-the-wool when it comes to which party they vote for so only a few really pay attention to this stuff and act on it (The last election was different). In the private sector we are always right sizing the workforce, looking for efficiencies and spending prudently. The bottom line impact on share price and competition motivates like nothing else. Understand that Government cannot work that way, but a light needs to be shone on how public money is spent and I'm glad Musk is willing to do this (note he is appointed / employed to advise, not elected, which by the way is totally fine)

[nychammer]

South Africa Mk2 on the way, the original version also destroyed by communists




 

are they merging with Zimbabwe?

[Takashi Miike]

"examples of clear and obvious fraud and corruption in Gov’t spending"

One of those examples visited the White House on Friday

[Nutsin]

AMy body else see Elon Musks recent interview on Rogans Podcast?

The worlds richest and some would argue smartest man said they have found several examples of clear and obvious fraud and corruption in Gov’t spending (not just insider trading) much worse that he hasn’t exposed or mentioned it yet because he fears for his life.

Is Elon not to be trusted now too? OR could he be telling the truth?

My money is on the latter and I believe Trump will expose it all. How else is Nancy Pelosi worth 100’s of millions for example.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if there are Republicans on the take too.

If I’m a gambling man I’d put money on Trump burying the bastards.
I have noticed how Nancy has been very quiet lately which is unlike her. 

Fuck I hope they expose them all soon. 

[dealcanvey]

 

Find the quote where he said he’d have it done on Inauguration Day then.

Funny how the people that have been critical against a peace deal, think they have legitimate criticism of Trump for not doing it fast enough.

I’m not going to find you anything. You can find it yourself easily online/youtube. He actually said he’d get it done before he got to the Oval as he gets on with both presidents well (half true).

what’s more funny is doubting that Trump would spout such lies. He lies so much people get bored of it and now gets a free pass. The biggest lie of all is that his main priority is to save innocent lives. 

I just asked you to back up your claim. Since you claimed a focus on exactly what he said. 

i assumed you loosely meant the 24 hours in which he stated he could end it, as if you’re disappointed he hasn’t already achieved his goal, despite clearly being against it happening.

Not sure you have any point about priority if he gets a peace deal. As it’s preferable to the perpetual war that opposition to him seem to want. Which clearly includes you.

 

Jaan,

My point is that Trump simply cannot be trusted on anything he says. He makes it up as he goes along. Makes the most outrageous remarks and denies saying it the very next day.

it is very easy to point the finger and say that those against Trump are against stopping the war. Alot of reform voters are plugging this narrative. 

There is another man that cannot be trusted called Putin. Forcing Ukraine to sign a peace deal especially one orchestrated by Trump and Putin wont last long at all. Might last as long as Trump is in power then Ukraine and the rest of Europe will be back to where we are now.

 

[Hammer I am]

It’s apparent that the left really are mentally ill.



 

The mentally ill are those that blindly follow and believe all things Trump (or any politician) OR the opposite and see Hitler or Mussolini in everything he does 

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada), of course in this day and age to the left that makes you some kind of fascist as your not all in in hating everything Trump, but to the true believers of all things Trump your branded a left wing woke commie or mentally ill as your also not all in on support for him

We live in bizarre times that's all i can see.

But as said a few times its the internet and no one really gives fuck what anyone else thinks, but we can all share our opinion, even if no one is listening, agreeing or even reading!

Yep, it's called anchoring bias and it's becoming more and more common in today's world

[Far Cough UKunt]

Cunts

[Takashi Miike]

South Africa Mk2 on the way, the original version also destroyed by communists



 

[Sydney_Iron]

It’s apparent that the left really are mentally ill.


 

The mentally ill are those that blindly follow and believe all things Trump (or any politician) OR the opposite and see Hitler or Mussolini in everything he does 

Anyone who thinks rationally and has a sense of decency can see on some issues Trump has it right but on others he is way off the mark or just spouts nonsense (Greenland, Canada), of course in this day and age to the left that makes you some kind of fascist as your not all in in hating everything Trump, but to the true believers of all things Trump your branded a left wing woke commie or mentally ill as your also not all in on support for him

We live in bizarre times that's all i can see.

But as said a few times its the internet and no one really gives fuck what anyone else thinks, but we can all share our opinion, even if no one is listening, agreeing or even reading!

[Nutsin]

It’s apparent that the left really are mentally ill.

 

[Sydney_Iron]

Sydders can't even manage to work out the time difference between the UK and Sydney, so I wouldn't take too much notice of his political views.

Sad but True I'm afraid to say and being Friday today, i still have 7 days before our next Monday night game............

[Manuel]

Sydders can't even manage to work out the time difference between the UK and Sydney, so I wouldn't take too much notice of his political views.

[Sydney_Iron]

Sydney, apart from the Greenland thing, which seems to be bothering you more than it should, what else specifically that he has said is affecting you so much that you need to be having a meltdown about it?

FMOB!

Thanks for the concern Eerie  but i think im going to be ok, its the fucking Internet after all and no one really gives a flying fuck what anyone else thinks on just about any subject.

Having recently retired i was having a moment as it where  Maybe the hormones are having a hissy fit so i started ranting................

As to Greenland, never been there, not sure i would want to, seems fucking cold and just a bunch of Eskimos (are we allowed to call them that) doing jack shit, eating fermented fish and whale blubber, so if they want to join the Septic's its up to them and NOT Trump.

Thanks again

*Group hug 

Sydders

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Let’s not go by posters on a football forum. Let’s go by what Trump has said himself. This was meant to be over on 21st January. 

 

Find the quote where he said he’d have it done on Inauguration Day then.

Funny how the people that have been critical against a peace deal, think they have legitimate criticism of Trump for not doing it fast enough.

I’m not going to find you anything. You can find it yourself easily online/youtube. He actually said he’d get it done before he got to the Oval as he gets on with both presidents well (half true).

what’s more funny is doubting that Trump would spout such lies. He lies so much people get bored of it and now gets a free pass. The biggest lie of all is that his main priority is to save innocent lives. 

I just asked you to back up your claim. Since you claimed a focus on exactly what he said. 

i assumed you loosely meant the 24 hours in which he stated he could end it, as if you’re disappointed he hasn’t already achieved his goal, despite clearly being against it happening.

Not sure you have any point about priority if he gets a peace deal. As it’s preferable to the perpetual war that opposition to him seem to want. Which clearly includes you.

[ironsofcanada]

Does make for some amusing news i suppose what's the silly cսnt said or done now and the sporting events between Canada and the USA are pretty lively 

Yes...there were even fights in a hockey game...

[Eerie Decent]

Sydney, apart from the Greenland thing, which seems to be bothering you more than it should, what else specifically that he has said is affecting you so much that you need to be having a meltdown about it?

[Sydney_Iron]

I've said this before but I think it needs repeating. Trump comes out with some outlandish claims but that's mainly because he isn't a Politician which isn't something you need to be to reach the office coffee president.  Prior to announcing himself as a candidate in the 2016 race, he'd never worked a day as a Politician. Those moaning about his lack of statesmanship would do well to remember all this, he behaves as an individual by his own rules.
And can anyone say in all honesty that the world would be a better place had that cackling tart become president?

I get what you're saying to some extent Billy but for my money it goes past just being a lack of statesmanship he's actively antagonizing people and whole nations and it should be called out, if for example the Spanish PM made a speech and declared one way or another Gibraltar was being absorbed into Spain, the pitchforks and outrage from those in the UK would be out quick smart even though its not going to happen.

I like the fact he's got rid of Woke and the DOGE stuff seems a good idea although not saw the chainsaw approach was the right way of doing it  But on Greenland or Canada even, people and governments should speak up rather than shrug the shoulders and as it doesn't really affect us so who gives fuck! But each to their own.

Does make for some amusing news i suppose what's the silly cսnt said or done now and the sporting events between Canada and the USA are pretty lively 

[ironsofcanada]

Could say the same with his stupid antic of calling Trudeau the Govenor of Canada, not sure anyone takes his talk of Canada becoming the 51st State (also wouldn't affect me very much!) seriously but why antagonize people or whole nations in this way?  

 

 

Because he is 
1) Trolling Trudeau, who originally told Trump that if the tariff/trade structure between us and them was changed then we " would cease to exist as a country." Dumb thing to say in front of Trump.

2) He wants a weak government he can bully in Canada and pit his right-leaning voters against. He has that now.  The Parliament is pro·rogued, the next Prime Minister (former Bank of England guy but awful speaker/politician) is being annointed as the head of the leading party.  The chances of that government (more left) staying is greater if he is the big mean right-wing bad guy who says nasty things. 

3) It plays very well in some circles.  The people that really hate it in the States, didn't vote for him. He needs to keep the leads in the House and Senate to better do his thing and it builds support there. 

And not everyone is antagonised, I am much more upset at the state of economy and the political situation here than I am with Donald Trump being Donald Trump.  And I can do more about it. 

[only1billybonds]

I've said this before but I think it needs repeating. Trump comes out with some outlandish claims but that's mainly because he isn't a Politician which isn't something you need to be to reach the office coffee president.  Prior to announcing himself as a candidate in the 2016 race, he'd never worked a day as a Politician. Those moaning about his lack of statesmanship would do well to remember all this, he behaves as an individual by his own rules.
And can anyone say in all honesty that the world would be a better place had that cackling tart become president?

[ironsofcanada]

I’m not going to find you anything. You can find it yourself easily online/youtube. He actually said he’d get it done before he got to the Oval as he gets on with both presidents well (half true).

what’s more funny is doubting that Trump would spout such lies. He lies so much people get bored of it and now gets a free pass. The biggest lie of all is that his main priority is to save innocent lives. 

 

 

His main priority doesn't have to be saving innocent lives.  It just has to get it done. 



We live in the real world. 

Your favourite restaurant's main priority is to make money.  To do that it needs give you a meal you enjoy at a price you will feel okay paying (and not poison you along the way.)  Are you naive enough to believe  its main priority is to make you a good meal?  No.  But it happens most of the time, I would guess, if it's your favourite restaurant.  

You are pretending? like the concept of an election promise is new to you. Donald Trump is politician.  He is going to promise things like all politicians.  He makes more outlandish statements than most but do you swallow up everything any politician says?  It like believing every advert you see. 

The deal has to be good for him politically and economically, where in there do you think his main priority is?

But at the end of the day, it is also only solution we have for saving innocent lives that has advanced in any way. 

[Sydney_Iron]

Just imagine for a moment you're stupid enough to believe him.

How does it effect your life that the USA owns Greenland?

Well although not taking him at face value, it was still a provocative thing to say and he does have form for this kind of comment, if intentional or not? Not sure it makes anyone stupid to not give it a WTF at the very least, wonder how the Greenlanders react to the comments (don't know any), or are they stupid!  

Wouldn't affect my life much if at all if the Yanks got Greenland, but i could say the same about Ukraine really, or how about Taiwan should the Chinese decide to take that, had we been around in 1939 would Hitler annexing Austria and then later invading Poland affected anyone in the UK, USA, Australia??? But it triggered a World War., not that im suggesting this will but not the point!

Could say the same with his stupid antic of calling Trudeau the Govenor of Canada, not sure anyone takes his talk of Canada becoming the 51st State (also wouldn't affect me very much!) seriously but why antagonize people or whole nations in this way?  

[dealcanvey]

Let’s not go by posters on a football forum. Let’s go by what Trump has said himself. This was meant to be over on 21st January. 

 

Find the quote where he said he’d have it done on Inauguration Day then.

Funny how the people that have been critical against a peace deal, think they have legitimate criticism of Trump for not doing it fast enough.

I’m not going to find you anything. You can find it yourself easily online/youtube. He actually said he’d get it done before he got to the Oval as he gets on with both presidents well (half true).

what’s more funny is doubting that Trump would spout such lies. He lies so much people get bored of it and now gets a free pass. The biggest lie of all is that his main priority is to save innocent lives. 

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Fucking hell, just seen that cluster fuck of a President say  he will get Greenland one way or another!

So say they have a referendum/Vote on becoming part of the USA and reject the idea, does the orange man invade or occupy anyway?

Blokes a fucking loon, he maybe right on getting rid of WOKE and SOME of the DOGE stuff but everything else is unhinged to say the least.

4 years of this nonsense

Can’t see it becoming US territory but I think Denmark will likely agree to a large US military presence there. 

BlackRock have just agreed to buy the Panama Canal ports, so the US gain control there like he wanted.

Greenland is already home to the largest overseas US military base in the world. He's clearly talking about sovereignty 

Yeah I know. My point was Denmark won’t sell it off, and will instead welcome an increase in military. The US only have a couple of hundred troops there.

[Cabbige Savage]

Hammer I am 

pleese no more whomale arsking me if i want cctv to show how farst you can paul anal beeds out

[Nutsin]

My favorite line from Trumps address to the nation yesterday.

”The media and our friends in the Democratic Party kept saying we needed new legislation to secure the border. 

But it turns out all we really needed was a new President!”

ag ag ag